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October 19, 2011

VP Biden saying murders and rapes will increase without passage of job bill

This Fox News report, headlined "Biden Evokes Sexual, Violent Imagery Again in Push for $447 Jobs Bill," indicates that Vice President Joe Biden is saying some really dumb stuff in pushing for the Obama Administration's jobs bill.  Here is how the piece starts:

Vice President Biden is stepping up his argument that rapes and murders could increase if Congress does not pass President Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill -- evoking sexual and violent imagery in his sales pitch for the second time in a week.   Speaking to Philadelphia police officers Tuesday at the University of Pennsylvania,

Biden slammed Republican critics who say the jobs bill is just “temporary,” underscoring measures aimed at maintaining police force levels.  “Let me tell you, it’s not temporary when that 9-1-1 call comes in and a woman’s being raped.  If a cop shows up in time to prevent the rape, it’s not temporary to that woman,” Biden said with his voice rising. “It’s not temporary to the guy whose store is being held up and has a gun being pointed to his head if a cop shows up and he’s not killed. That’s not temporary to that store owner. Give me a break -- temporary.

“I wish these guys who thought it was temporary, I wish they had some notion what it’s like be on the other side of a gun or a 200-pound man standing over you telling you to submit,” he added.  “Folks, it matters. It matters.”

Last Wednesday, Biden suggested during a speech in Flint, Mich., that rapes and murders could rise if the jobs bill failed to pass Congress.

The Republican National Committee released a memo calling Biden’s comments “irresponsible and mean-spirited” and calling on the media and women’s groups to condemn the remarks.

“No victim of violent crime would ever wish that others were forced to experience the same trauma they went through -- especially to make a brazen political point. So why would the sitting vice president of the United States?”

“Our economy is hurting and the Obama administration’s policies have only prolonged the pain, but that is no excuse for Vice President Biden to wish his political opponents to be subjected to rape or have a gun held to their head,” the RNC said. “Victims of violent crime should never be used for political gain.”

Though I am not really a member of the media, I am still happy to rise to the call of the RNC:  I condemn these foolish remarks by the Vice President.  I am reminded here of when Ray Lewis said back in May that crime would go up if the NFL did not resolve its labor woes in time for the new football season.  And it is not a mark of greatness when remarks by the Vice President remind you of remarks by an NFL player.

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"And it is not a mark of greatness when remarks by the Vice President remind you of remarks by an NFL player."


I'm all for a fully adequate police force. I'm also for Vice Presidents (and Presidents) who remember what federalism is, and that it's not the role of the federal government to do everything.

Posted by: Bill Otis | Oct 19, 2011 10:43:48 PM


To make this a better (non-police state) country, all COPS and Byrne grants should immediately be repealed!

Also, all SWAT Teams should be abolished and (if possible) re-organized with a real crime reduction plan in place.

Posted by: albeed | Oct 19, 2011 11:20:02 PM

Biden shamed himself with these comments. Just plain dumb.

Somebody at Politico recently suggested Biden may/should be dumped and Bill Clinton taken on as 2012 running mate to pave the way for his wife's 2016 candidacy. After reading this, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

Posted by: Gritsforbreakfast | Oct 20, 2011 7:00:27 AM

I never thought I would see the day when Bill Otis would applaud a call for less cops.

As for me, I have always believed that one of the greatest predicters of whether or not a person would commit a given crime was not the punishment but the perceived risk of getting caught. Less cops = less risk. The exploding numbers out of Trenton, NJ since their massive layoff last month is a prime example.

Posted by: speaking just for me.... | Oct 20, 2011 8:38:36 AM

"I never thought I would see the day when Bill Otis would applaud a call for less cops."

You can rest easy, since you haven't and won't. What I said is that hiring local police is a local, not a federal, responsibility. I never said the locals should refrain from fulfilling that responsibility.

Posted by: Bill Otis | Oct 20, 2011 9:47:11 AM

Actually, missing from the argument from even the GOP side is the fact that Biden was not promoting "jobs" as much as he was promoting "more (union) cops." In other words, the "jobs" bill had NOTHING to do with promoting an economic stimulus (like the first few trillion dollars) than it was for paying off union support of his administration.

And for the record: cops do NOT prevent rapes or murders. They only come in AFTER the fact in the vast majority of cases. They may provide a marginal effect in deterrence, but for crimes to be prevented in the first place is to provide an economic incentive, mostly through private sector jobs, which the "jobs" bill does not address.

Posted by: Eric Knight | Oct 21, 2011 10:10:55 AM

This was on 12 October 2011?
It was on 15 October 2008,

that Biden stated:

"Look, John’s last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S."

The more things change…...

Posted by: adamakis | Oct 21, 2011 10:40:15 AM

Does this mean that the liberals will FINALLY stop complaining about the Willie Horton ads? This is much worse.

The Obama administration will likely dig up D.W. Griffith to shoot ads showing black men ravaging white women, all because Republicans did not back his "Jobbing the American Taxpayer Act."

Posted by: TarlsQtr | Oct 21, 2011 2:36:16 PM

At John Jay we researched the claim that crime rises because of economic downturns and we found no statistical evidence to support such a claim. In fact, the mass incarceration era took place during good economic times.

Posted by: Mark | Oct 23, 2011 11:39:14 AM

Joe Biden is a moron, a racist, and an elitist seeking to cause a class war. His comments are merely one of many exhibits of this. He is perfect for this dishonest and incompetent administration. It should not matter who Obama picks for his VP in the coming election. He should lose by a wide margin. Otherwise America is doomed.

Posted by: Kowman Harshky | Oct 27, 2011 7:10:40 AM

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