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November 20, 2011

New documentary looks at "Young Kids, Hard Time"

Anyone concerned with juvenile crime and punishments (including Supreme Court Justices, who are starting to develop a whole Eighth Amendment jurisprudence on this front) ought to be sure to set their DVRs tonight at 10 pm EST to MSNBC, which will be premiering a one-hour documentary titled " "Young Kids, Hard Time."  A five-minute clip of Act One of the documentary is available at this link, where there is also this summary of the program:

Young Kids, Hard Time is an extraordinary new series from Calamari Productions and MSNBC that throws back the veil on the reality of young kids serving long sentences behind adult prison walls.  With sweeping access to go inside the maximum security Wabash Valley Correctional Facility in Carlisle, Indiana -- the only adult prison in the state of Indiana that houses kids sentenced as adults -- Young Kids, Hard Time reveals what life is like for young kids staring down decades behind bars.  Wabash Valley is home to the Youth Incarcerated As Adults cellblock (YIA), where 53 kids eat, sleep, study and recreate while being alienated from their adult counterparts.  But once a youth turns 18, they are transitioned into the adult population, where thousands of adult prisoners await.

UPDATE:  The Scripps Howard News Service has run a series of articles based on investigation of kids serving adult time, which is reported in these two new pieces:

This second piece includes this notable data:

Nine thousand times a year, U.S. judges move juvenile suspects into criminal court, opening the door to a stay in adult jail. While judges say these transfers are meant for youths suspected of the most dangerous offenses, only two out of five transferred youths stands accused of a violent crime against another person, the Scripps Howard News Service found in analyzing data from almost a quarter-million cases. Most youths moved to adult court are charged with crimes involving drugs, weapons or property....

Most transferred juveniles face charges for crimes other than murder, rape, robbery or assault, National Center for Juvenile Justice data show. The Pittsburgh-based nonprofit publishes records covering 228,771 cases moved from youth court to the adult criminal justice system from 1985 to 2008....

Even a very young age doesn't exempt defendants from transfer. The database shows some 1,528 suspects 12 or younger were transferred, including 623 charged with violent crimes. More — 651 — faced charges of property crimes.

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The 15 year old kid who orchestrated the murder of his stepfather believed all he could get was probation. He got 30 years instead.

All those protecting these vicious predators should be targeted for street justice by the families of murder victims. Shoot them in the knee caps. To deter. These policy makers are not even pro-criminal. They are generating government make work jobs, in rent seeking. The latter is a synonym for armed robbery. Therefore, hurting, torturing, and killing these policy makers are really a form of social self-defense. These have full justification, in morals, intellect, and policy. The policy makers are nothing more than a criminal syndicate in full control of the government. Deterring them is a blessing and a public good. We pity the Mexican government because of its corruption. They should pity us. At least the Mexican drug cartels do not make 99% of the government policy decisions, as the lawyer profession does here, a criminal cult enterprise. The Mexican drug gangs have not taken full control of their government.

Under 123D, there would be no young people in adult prison, they would be executed if older than 14, the real age of full adulthood. Nor would there be any adult prisoners awaiting them when they turn 18. There would be no adult prisoners. They would have all been executed before 18, as well. And there would be no more crime in the US.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Nov 20, 2011 6:50:31 PM


What is the proper age to shoot someone (beyond any doubt) because they are of a certain age?

The US JustUs System sends people to prison for life because they TALKED on an ADULT Internet Chat Room and Talked about SEX to someone who implied along the way that they were about 14-15 years of age.

Go back to attacking Feminists. 123D is more reasonably understood from a political perspective.

Posted by: albeed | Nov 20, 2011 11:48:04 PM

The makers of those laws are phony rent seekers. The count would start on them, because rent seeking is a synonym for armed robbery. Worse, the child porn laws themselves promote child sexual abuse by making it expensive and more profitable for criminal syndicates. So the legislators passing these laws would be arrested, tried and count 1 would be recorded. If they don't stop, they die too. If they are eradicated, child sexual abuse would decrease around the world. The first mass executions would take out the lawyer hierarchy. Crime would end in a month. The economy would shoot up like a rocket. All that wasted tax money would be transferred to research and development, which is the fate of the nation, anyway.

These kids are almost immunized for killing and injuring staff, by the pro-criminal, rent seeking lawyer. One can not even tell them to start acting like a fool, because that derogatory statement is emotional abuse, and the guard would lose his job.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Nov 21, 2011 1:07:25 AM

Feminism itself is a phony, a Trojan Horse for lawyer rent seeking. Example, in sexual harassment, the lawyer is not even embarrassed that the harasser is not sued, but only the productive, male founded company. The KKK was a Trojan Horse, appearing to be a states' rights organization, taking back the South. It was a phony excuse to lynch rich blacks and Jews, take their assets, distribute them to prosecutors and judges who refused to prosecute the open lynchers.

Both schemes copy the gotchas in the Inquisition, and its business model. It proved to be hardy for 700 years, ending only when French patriots beheaded 10,000 church officials or sent them packing back to the Vatican. As the lawyer takes its business model from the Inquisition, so should American patriots model the remedy from the French patriots, mass executions of the lawyer hierarchy. These are traitors to the nation, imposing supernatural doctrines on to a secular nation.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Nov 21, 2011 1:21:41 AM

"Young Kids, Hard Time" will repeat Saturday, November 26th at 5pm Eastern, 2pm Pacific.

Posted by: CFYJ | Nov 21, 2011 7:25:10 PM

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