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April 28, 2015

Indonesia executes by firing squad eight of "Bali nine" for drug offenses

As reported in this New York Times article, "the Indonesian government executed eight drug convicts after midnight on Wednesday, including seven foreigners."  Here is more:

The executed prisoners, from Australia, Brazil and Nigeria, along with one Indonesian, were shot by police firing squads about 12:25 a.m. local time at a site outside the gates of Pasir Putih prison on the island of Nusa Kambangan off the southern coast of Java, according to the attorney general’s office.

The authorities granted the stay of execution to Mary Jane Veloso, 30, a Philippine citizen, after the Philippine government requested her assistance in a human trafficking case involving a woman who surrendered to the Philippine police on Tuesday....

The mass execution was the second in Indonesia this year. In January, five foreign drug convicts and one Indonesian convicted of murder were shot by firing squads on the island.

On Saturday, the attorney general’s office gave 72 hours’ notice to the latest group of condemned prisoners, their legal teams and their respective embassies that the executions would be carried out. On Monday, an Australian prisoner, Andrew Chan, married his Indonesian fiancée in a small ceremony at the prison. A French citizen who was also originally on the list to be executed won a two-­week reprieve from the State Administrative Court in Jakarta, the Indonesian capital, which will hear his challenge to a clemency rejection by President Joko Widodo.

Shortly after taking office last October, Mr. Joko declared that Indonesia was facing “a national emergency” of drug abuse, and he rejected 64 clemency appeals from death row drug convicts, most of them foreigners. Saying Indonesia had a right to exercise its drug laws, Mr. Joko’s government rejected international pleas to cancel the executions, including from Ban Ki­moon, secretary general of the United Nations.

The executions have angered some of Indonesia’s largest aid donors, including Australia and the European Union. Australia announced on Wednesday that it would withdraw its ambassador to Indonesia, and Prime Minister Tony Abbott described the deaths of Mr. Chan and another Australian, Myuran Sukumaran, as a dark moment in Australia’s diplomatic relations with Indonesia.

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That is what an effective drug policy looks like, but with 10,000 executions in the USA. That could effectively end tobacco and alcohol use. The users would get ten lashes as often as caught. No fines. It is their business to get treatment for addiction.

In return, 500,000 gruesome deaths, each prolonged, each painful, each humiliating,would be prevented. The savings in health, and productivity costs? Close to a $trillion. Then we would have the automatic prevention of half the murders, half the suicides, half the car crashes, most of the domestic disputes, half of all violent crime. We talk about the lead levels around here. If lead level is a spit ball of crimogenesis, alcohol is a cannonball shot from a Howitzer of crimogenesis.

Those who cannot support the prohibition of alcohol and tobacco at this level of real effectiveness, cannot support the prohibition of marijuana. Since there is zero public support for the above remedy, one must logically support the legalization of marijuana.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Apr 28, 2015 10:03:32 PM

The stupidity of the filthy lawyer traitor is stunning. This piece of filth will withdraw the ambassador to a good friend over the worthless life of a subhuman drug dealer.

The Minister for Foreign Affairs needs to be sacked. It goes without saying, a pro-criminal, Harvard indoctrinated, vile feminist lawyer, Australian edition.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Apr 29, 2015 2:50:08 AM

This character SC, is it real? I sometimes muse that our host has an alter-ego. After a long day of rational, compassionate teaching and advocacy, does the good professor find a terminal and blow off steam? Has anyone seen them at the same place at the same time?

Dr. Berman and Mr. Claus?

Posted by: Boffin | Apr 29, 2015 10:30:20 AM


Supremacy Claus is reported to be a psychologist from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Of note, the comment sections of this blog are unfortunately less animated than before.

Posted by: visitor | Apr 29, 2015 1:22:25 PM

Life now imitates art. See Return to Paradise, a film released in 1998, set in Malaysia, death penalty imposed for hash.

Posted by: Late Inning Relief | Apr 29, 2015 4:08:31 PM

The blog link to SC notes:

"Supremacy Claus is a fictional character. The mother gave birth during a difficult Constitutional Law examination in law school. Supremacy has a younger brother, Establishment, and an older sister, Full Faith. The cousin is famous, Santa."

This might just be in jest. But, it's hard to tell. Poe's Law and all.

Posted by: Joe | Apr 29, 2015 6:10:58 PM

Try to not get too obsessed, Boffin. You are not used to ordinary common sense, and the views of regular folks, including black folks. That is what the Supremacy is about.

You have a personal guarantee, it is not Prof. Berman. It will grant the Prof a 50 point IQ advantage. When he occasionally decides to, he can drive intellectual circles around the Supremacy. However, that brilliance was carpet bombed by the Harvard Law education. He allows the Supremacy to stay to see a perspective from an intact academic high school education not eradicated by the legal education.

In order to get past 1L, students have to come to believe in mind reading, future forecasting, and that standards of conduct must be set by a fictional character. Why fictional? To make the standards objective, of course. That character has the overly cautious and worry wart character of Mickey Mouse. However, the matter is quite serious, and represents an all out insurrection against the constitution by the legal profession.

That character has to be fictitious because he is really Jesus, an orthodoxy completely prohibited by the constitution of our secular nation. Had the 10th Grade World History education of these Harvard Law grads not been erased, they would remember where they had seen these concepts before. I will gladly review the paper trail, if asked.

Beyond being a soft cult deprogrammer of the lawyer profession, the Supremacy is an empiricist, and an utilitarian. It believes only in incapacitation as a valuable goal of the criminal law. The most effective incapacitation is the death penalty.

The Supremacy can rapidly change views if it stumbles onto a persuasive fact. It did so, in the case of the lead blood level as a factor in the dropping crime rates. It found a study linking the population level correlations with the individual finding of higher lead levels in the incarcerated. It embraced the lead blood level theory.

The Supremacy has also offered the abolitionist side original and powerful arguments they have never made. That shows the sincerity of its empiricism and utilitarianism. Examples? It is cruel to know the date of one's death. The death penalty must be immediately stopped if a Werther Effect is ever shown.

Posted by: Supremacy Claus | Apr 30, 2015 2:57:01 AM

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