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October 6, 2008
OJ Simpson subject to 15-year mandatory minimum (though with parole)
Writing here at SI.com, law professor Michael McCann provides an effective review of "the key questions following the guilty verdict of O.J. Simpson on all 12 counts of armed robbery and kidnapping." Here is the Q&A on sentencing:
What will happen at Simpson's sentencing on December 5?
Even if she opts to impose the most lenient possible sentence under discretion, Clark County District Judge Jackie Glass will sentence Simpson to at least 15 years in prison. His conviction alone of first-degree kidnapping with a deadly weapon carries a minimum sentence of 15 years, with the possibility of parole after five years, and a maximum sentence of life of prison with the chance of parole. Judge Glass could run the sentences for each of the 12 charges concurrently or consecutively, the latter of which would be disastrous for Simpson, as he would then serve time for each sentence, one-after-the-other.
Working in Simpson's favor is that judges normally refrain from imposing the maximum possible sentence for first-time offenders and, despite the many controversies surrounding him over the last two decades, Simpson has not previously been convicted of a crime (though he did plead no contest in 1989 to a spousal abuse charge, meaning he neither contested the charge nor admitted guilt). Then again, at age 61, there is a strong probability that, absent a successful appeal and regardless of Judge Glass' leniency, Simpson will spend the remainder of his life in prison.
Given that OJ is not really a classic "first-time offender," I do not think his legal team should be (or will be) expecting Judge Glass to impose the minimum possible sentence. That said, it will be very interesting to watch how everyone involved handles the acquitted conduct issue this high-profile case presents. It will also be interesting for years to come to watch how the Nevada parole authorities deal with this prominent felon as he ages in prison.
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Nevada attorney here - I would expect the prosecutors to leave the murder case out of the sentencing hearing as there is no need to create additional issues on appeal. On the other hand, creating a clean appellate record is seldom the focus of the Clark County District Attorney's Office.
Our standard for sentencing considerations is fairly low: the judge may not consider "highly suspect and impalpable" evidence. The Nevada Supreme Court gives great deference to district court sentencing decisions and very seldom reverses a sentence so long as it is within the statutory limits. In my 16 years of practice before the Court, I've seen less than 10 reversals on sentencing issues in non-capital cases.
At a minimum, I think Judge Glass will order consecutive sentences for the two kidnapping convictions as the standard practice here is to give consecutive sentences for each distinct victim named in the charges. The weapons enhancements must be imposed as consecutive terms.
Posted by: jonell | Oct 6, 2008 11:58:09 AM
In some respects, OJ is getting it worse than he would have had he been convicted for the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman. He got to be a free man, thinking that he had beaten the system, and now that's all gone, and all he has to do is think about how stupid he was. Ha. Ha. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Posted by: federalist | Oct 6, 2008 12:42:30 PM
Although I have nothing to support my hunch, The Count of Monte Cristo immediately came to mind!
Posted by: Stanley Feldman | Oct 6, 2008 1:11:30 PM
SWEET!!!!
Posted by: jcro | Oct 16, 2008 7:53:45 PM
o.j FINALLY got what he had comin to him, his arrogant w ays and temper finally caught up to the bastard. Hope he rots in hell.
Posted by: justisssssss | Oct 17, 2008 10:39:53 AM
As i watched the trial , I couldn't help but see that same "bad acting" O.J. portraying himself, same as he did in his film career. An underlying sickness surfaced and all I could think about Was the innocent victims in both cases. Gut wrenching is probably the best analogy. Anyway, talk about poetic justice! From a theological stand-point of view. You can,t hide from God baby!
Pastor rick
Posted by: richard blockno | Oct 25, 2008 9:48:26 AM
If it is not the lynch mob ideology all over again. You people are two seconds away from burning him at the stake. O.J. is the first black man in history, compared to hundreds of thousands of whites, that got off with murdering someone of an opposite race. How dare you hypocrits keep bringing up those murders; No matter how you keep beating that dead horse. Yes, he was stupid, but if he had been Mr. Blake, we would not be talking about this now, and you all know it.
Posted by: shame shame | Oct 27, 2008 4:57:27 PM
Get off the race soapbox. This has NOTHING to do with race. It has to do with O.J. (once again) breaking the law, and thinking he could get away with it...again. He got cocky after beating the murder rap (we ALL know he did it...he even admitted it), and thought he could get away with anything because of who he was...yes WAS. I'm glad to see that he was proven wrong. I don't care what your skin color is. If you break the law, YOU DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED. PERIOD.
Posted by: Gram | Oct 27, 2008 5:57:05 PM
I am a freelance landscaper.
Although Simpson is no angel, I find it amazing how much deeply embedded subconscious hatred whites are throwing at him on this case, stemming from the Nicole/Goldman murder case. That case was a bitter victory for African Americans, considering what some whites have gotten away with for eons against black victims of violence, and still get away with. In our system of justice, justice depends on your color, we all know this to be true.
Posted by: Rodman | Oct 28, 2008 2:50:52 PM
The "Race Card" again? If there was race, it was the BLACK Jury, giving the guy, who slaughtered, the MOTHER of his children, and a JEW, less the 70 feet from where the children were sleeping! And to hear African Americans, justify that slaughter, by claiming he did not "Do it" showed me, Blacks have a problem with me & Reality. I ain't going away. So kiss my "White Irish Ass..........
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper | Oct 29, 2008 5:27:07 AM
People tend to forget that it has always only been speculated that OJ was guilty of murder, because all of the evidence presented against him, in his case, was entirely circumstantial, and there was in fact no actual evidence that supported that he definitively committed those crimes.
Now his constitutional rights to receive a fair trial, and not receive unusually cruel and inordinate punishment, based upon the real intent of the laws, are essentially being stepped on.
Let's face it people, and get real with ourselves about this!..Oj is in effect being prosecuted for his previous murder case, and is now being sentenced by a kangaroo court.
People need to not be so hypocritical, as well. Nothing that OJ did in this recent situation, was anything short of what any normal person would have done, in the very same circumstance.
Just because OJ cursed, and raised his voice on tape, during the process of retrieving sentimental items that were stolen from him, mind you!, does not make him anymore questionable in character, than most of America's population. Just remember, those without sin, go ahead and throw your stones!
Also, there were no guns brandished in this case. Yes, the gentleman who came with him were packing, but they were not waiving around their guns when in that hotel room..it was just the implied threat, when he told his entourage not to let anyone leave the room...and I feel that it is an obvious reach and misutilization of our laws, from their original intended purpose, to characterize OJ's recent case a kidnapping.
Let's face it..The man is clearly being railroaded, and the sad fact is, no one who pronounces themselves of any real integrity in this country, is willing to stand up for his fundamental rights, which are being stomped on, by letting this happen to him, and allowing this abusive misusage of our legal system to just throw away the key on OJ.
Keep in mind, that it is commonly believed, that OJ could not get a fair trial virtually anywhere in this country, due to the unfounded propagated beliefs surrounding his prior murder case.
I have always believed that his case was due largely to a bunch of emotional mistakes/missteps on his part, which led to his mis-characerization as the culprit..and I also believe that the Police and most of society rushed to judgement, as he was tried in the court of public opinion, with the mere belief that he committed those murders.
I tend to believe, if the shoe were on the other foot, though, and people themselves were in OJ's situation, they would want someone to stand up for them.
What if OJ is in fact really innocent of murder, and he is being treated the way that he is..by our legal system, the constitution, and the members of our society at large. What an unethical travesty of justice this is.
Think about it, it could be you that is being railroaded, in the future, too... if we are to continue to allow our laws to be misused and bent in this manner..without any objections.
Posted by: Neal | Oct 30, 2008 3:31:58 AM
I've always felt that if they could not convict him in the first place they should have left him alone. The only reason the civil conviction was allowed in the first place was to toss some flesh to the angry mob. The civil trial may have been legal, and I have my doubts, but it wasn't just.
Posted by: Joe | Oct 30, 2008 4:02:07 PM
I love how thw fact O.J. slaughter's 2 people, and BLACK'S try to justify it, by #1 White's got away with it before, and #2 (My favorite), "There was no Direct evidence..............Nigger Please........White rage? You try that blame game on some liberal, teenager, who knows less that shit. The man is a NIGGER, deal with it!
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper | Nov 2, 2008 2:41:10 AM
Justice will finally prevail. 15 years doesn't normally sound like a good number, but to live out your 60's and 70's it sure does. :D
Posted by: mc | Nov 5, 2008 10:38:29 AM
THANK GOD THIS ONE MURDERER FINALLY GOT TIME IN JAIL. I HOPE IT IS THE REST OF HIS LIFE AND THEN SOME. PLUS I HOPE HE SPENDS ETERNITY IN HELL.
Posted by: DANIEL J STACK | Nov 6, 2008 11:24:31 AM
JONELL SAID "Nevada attorney here - I would expect the prosecutors to leave the murder case out of the sentencing hearing as there is no need to create additional issues on appeal."
You're an attorney? Then you should know that the murder case (where OJ was found Not Guilty, by the way) is not, was not and never will be a part of this separate case. Yeah... I WOULD "expect" prosecutors to leave it out, too. What I WOULDN'T expect is someone who thinks he's a lawyer even suggesting the two could ever be legally connected.
Posted by: Sam | Nov 12, 2008 10:19:01 AM
I am a candidate for JD - Jan. 09. I find some of the comments here interesting, if not frightening at times.
I agree completely that as far as the alleged murders, those cannot be held against O.J. whatsoever in his sentencing for the kidnapping/robbery. However, I think the individual that spoke of that was merely indicating that Glass will be very careful that her sentencing will not be perceived as having taken that into consideration - to limit potential for appeal. I also appreciate the clarification as to what must be given consecutively and what is mandatory since that will help me understand the sentence when it is made.
As for comments on circumstantial evidence regarding the murder trial, in many cases circumstantial evidence is far more accurate than direct evidence! I would put far more weight on the fact that blood consistent with O.J. Simpson was collected at the scene of the murders, mixed in with blood of the victims, *before* blood was collected at other locations (circumstantial evidence) than I would if there was a random 75 year old white woman that had no clue who OJ was indicate she saw a large black man commit the murders and then positively ID him at a later date (direct evidence). If the latter had occurred, I would likely dismiss the direct evidence simply because OJ would be familiar to someone even subconsciously and that would increase the likelihood that he/she would pick him out of a lineup or similar at a later date. I would not be able to trust the direct evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
Direct evidence such as eye witness identification is notoriously bad. Just consider the large number of individuals convicted by "direct evidence" of an eye witness that are later exonerated by "circumstantial evidence" such as DNA evidence.
I'll stick with the circumstantial evidence.
Posted by: Victoria | Nov 13, 2008 3:26:30 PM
i hope all you blackies out there don't gripe when a white person kills your wife and kids or her new boyfriend or whoever shes screwing. you niggers need to wake the f up! get of the poor black thing hell you got more freakin rights than any people on earth! THANK GOD FOR CICLE CELL! EAT SHIT AND HANG!
Posted by: joe plumber | Nov 14, 2008 3:34:16 PM
I'm just a guy. Please understand that ANYONE who murders another person and gets away with it will be loathed and despised. If that person then continues to act irrationally and engages in another crime are ANY of you surprised that people will be relieved to know that this person finally got what he deserved. It's not a matter of black vs white. I am glad to see him going off to jail for a mighty long time. He will not be missed.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 16, 2008 8:25:01 PM
Joe and Victoria....Do you two live in the same trailer park?
Posted by: Dumbfounded | Nov 17, 2008 12:49:54 PM
Sorry Victoria and Joe.....Jack D. Ripper and Joe plumber are the morons.
Posted by: Dumbfounded | Nov 17, 2008 12:52:16 PM
Sorry Victoria and Joe.....Jack D. Ripper and Joe plumber are the morons.
Posted by: Dumbfounded | Nov 17, 2008 12:52:51 PM
It's hard to believe some of the hate here that just spews from white trash racist bigots and their asinine rants.
You haters here don't seem to even have a grasp of the details of what happened at the Vegas trial. He was CLEARLY set up by an acquaintance he thought was a friend in the sports memorabilia business. This schmuck, who had a prior criminal record, told him that he had a couple card collectors upstairs that were trading memorabilia that OJ would be interested in since they used to be his and stolen. These were items of which he had great sentimental value, and that he had arranged a meeting for him for his benefit should he wish to retrieve his items from them. Meanwhile, he set up the two dealers that had his stuff by calling and arranging a meeting with a 'wealthy buyer' that is very interested in their merchandise. So this mofo setup the train wreck that would occur in the hotel room he rented where it was to take place, while wiring the whole place down so he could record it all. Then, he worked on getting OJ riled up that these guys were thieves and that they had no right to his stuff. OJ angry now that he finally knows what happened to this items, finds a posse of acquitances for backup him up while he confronts these dealers. Meanwhile, the hustler schmuck begins recording; as his motive is to profit off the entire incident using OJ as the big name draw so he could make a bunch of money for himself to support his drug habit and then leaves the room to call 911 to report an assault going on by OJ Simpson in his room that he conducted for business between sports cards dealers. He then cashes in by selling various copies to different tabloids immediately after OJ's arrest for a six figure sums. He made $210,000 selling video to gossip website TMZ.com and another $60,000 selling pictures to tabloids.
Even one of the memorabilia dealers is totally sympathetic to OJ getting setup and was astonished that the schmuck that orchestrated the whole thing didn't even get charged!
Are any of you saying that in similar circumstances where things of high monetary value that you also cherished that had been stolen years earlier and were informed in the possession of these two next door. What would you do if you had a posse of friends with you? You wouldn't try and go retrieve what was yours? He wasn't getting all 'high and mighty' as some claim here, thinking he was above the law and could get away with anything. Quite the opposite, this was a spur of the moment decision after being goaded into anger by the felony huckster that punked him. He did not have the option of calling police, nor has he ever since his prior acquittal, since as soon as COPS discover it's OJ requesting assistance they blow him off. When cops just ignore you and your stuff that was stolen, like his NFL MVP award, is being held by the looters of your property next door, you sure as hell would be upset.
OJ got setup and railroaded, all because this schmuck that he 'thought' was a friend and that he does sports business with needed to make some big cash to support his coke and heroin habit.
That is just wrong.
Posted by: | Nov 18, 2008 9:48:58 PM
Its funny how there's a lot of people fueled by hatred, As a Black guy, race is a critical issue, people who spew hatred remarks and stand by them 100% due to the color of the person skin will burn in Hell point blank. I wont give no excuse on OJ behave because he wasn't found guilty for the double murders so there no reason to defend it. The point is that some white people are misunderstood children that haven't used their brains for nothing in recent years. You see I can get mad if you call me all the names in the book, why? well you see no matter what happens in the black community good or bad they(some of them) will always have Ill to say. A prime example, Obamas win sent a surge in white supremacy enrollment, also he has received the most death threats than any other president that ran for office. My point is If you want to crucify Michael Vick but turn a blind eye on Martha steward go on ahead it doesn't matter. I just don't see how you can rob someone of your own property but people don't know how to think these days, but Oj should of took a different approach regarding the matter.
Posted by: Dwayne | Nov 19, 2008 2:58:27 PM
OJ is the biggest moron in history. Of course, he's a coon. Who else could be so dumb? Coons are completely useless. We all know this, right?
Enjoy state prison you piece of shit. LOL Hope you have a lot of KY in your cell, FAGGOT.
Posted by: bob | Nov 23, 2008 11:06:14 PM
Like the first time he was arrested as a suspect for the homicides in California and this time in Las Vegas, the look on his face was the same....... "I got caught" rather than "I did it".
Just a thought.......
Posted by: NUWAVE | Nov 24, 2008 5:35:45 PM
Hey listen niggers. We all know OJ gives us all bad raps , and I don't mean rap as in rapping. The juice nigger IS a murderer and justice will be dealt out as it will. So don't give me the old racial nigger please rap. Fuck you OJ .... you fucking nigger.
Posted by: Black Inner City Man | Nov 25, 2008 12:17:36 AM
Has any of you good people ever seen the homicide crime scene pictures of Ron Goldman and Brown .
Posted by: Detective Bob | Nov 25, 2008 12:20:00 AM
Fred et al.: Rodman, Dwayne, Joe, and Victoria are obviously different handles for the same semi-literate racist, who may well live in a trailer park with a passel of inbred kinfolk in a remote village somewhere in southern Appalachia.
Posted by: ECV | Nov 27, 2008 6:08:03 AM
i am a student and want people to understand that Simpson was going down ether way. Two things we do know are he got away with murder in 1995 and was held for trial because he did it. Two, he was held for trial in 2008 not because he did it, but because Simpson as a black man thought he could walk around and live in America as a black man who got away with murder and actually thought white society, ie. Public, police, procecutors, etc. would forget about him. if your a white rich kid in america and are found not-guilty of a little misd. charge believe me, the cops will get you again, white or black, its a business and detectives must pay rent on time....As guilty he was of murder was as not-guilty he was in this current case. If anyone else, the sentence would be considering no prior record. Probation, community serv. and hefty court fines.
Posted by: dave | Nov 28, 2008 9:49:24 AM
Simpson is a low life piece of trash. The stupid MORON got away with butchering 2 beautiful young people the mother of his children and a young man in the prime of his life. I hope he goes away for ever and the first and last images he sees daily is Ron and Nicole. Black people defends and lies for Simpson listed he never had anything to do with Black, he only dates Blonde beautiful woman.
Posted by: Maria | Nov 28, 2008 3:39:45 PM
Simpson is a low life piece of trash. The stupid MORON got away with butchering 2 beautiful young people the mother of his children and a young man in the prime of his life. I hope he goes away for ever and the first and last images he sees daily is Ron and Nicole. Black people defends and lies for Simpson listed he never had anything to do with Black, he only dates Blonde beautiful woman.
Posted by: Maria | Nov 28, 2008 3:41:13 PM
Suggesting that the OJ and Blake aquittals were similiar injustices ... is ludercrous.
Blake may be guilty ... but the jury decision was obviously based on the "beyond a reasonable doubt" factor.
The defensive "dream team" for the OJ murder trial did not have that option. The circumstancial evidence was overwhelming and reasonable doubt ... simply would not work.
Their only hope was to play the race card ... in reverse. The utter misbelief expression on OJ's face with the "not guilty" verdict ... screamed volumes.
Maybe racial prejudice was a factor as "the law" looked for an opportunity for revenge ... but without OJ's subsequent teflon attitude ... his latest conviction would never had happened.
This guy has had a big loud bulls eye on his back ever since his double murder acquittal. The whole world knew this but OJ's arrogance blinded him. You can't "fix stupid".
Jail time for this silly Vegas conviction ... unfortunately for OJ ... is a legal necessity. Revenge justice may not be pretty but, at times ... the only option.
A murderer will finally go to jail.
Posted by: Kelly | Nov 28, 2008 4:04:57 PM
Victoria and Joe(WHITIES) u ressemble some good piece of white tr**sh. I am caucasion and i have 100% love for the black bros and sisters. What good thing or example do u have for ur kids, if you present urself on the forum this way. I really sympathise with your primitiveness.
As for OJ, i honestly believe he was just trying to retrieve his property and he might have done it the wrong way. The truth of the matter is, if it was some other whitey, it could have been handled in a simple/ different way. I hate it that OJ is now facing justice only because of his color..... white supremists,,, a true judgement awaits you above.
As a masters student in law, i believe by the end of Obama era, white supremists might not be forced to like, but would surely accept that its not COLOR but logic, good sense of humor and intelligence that makes up a person.
Posted by: Elizabeth | Nov 28, 2008 7:22:02 PM
It's sad to see so many people show such disrespect for the system. The same morons who claim that "law & order" should always reign supremem are the first ones to bring their personal prejudices into a question of legality.
OJ Simpson may or may not have killed his wife. I dont care how hardcore and diehard of an OJ hater you are at the end of the day you weren't there. And even if he did do it there hasn't been worse? You can think of no one else who has done worse? Where is your anger for them?
Most of you are just whores to celebrity and need to get yourself a life. YOu dont care about Nicole SImpson, HIs children or Ron. You all care about your own biases.
IT'S A COURT OF LAW NOT A COURT OF FEELINGS.
Posted by: JN | Nov 28, 2008 9:11:37 PM
DAB, when you created this blog, i think you wanted to hear peoples views towards OJs situation. I´m impressed that you deleted my previous comment, which did not contain any racial insults, unlike Victoria and Joe haters and supremists to the black race. I´m caucasion and yet i´m convinced your blog was only created for racial threats and not for peoples views. I still mantain that this was a complete setup for OJ and this innocent man is facing racial unethical justice only because of the previously propagated murder case. This dude was just trying to retrieve HIS items.....
Posted by: elizabeth | Nov 30, 2008 8:05:43 AM
Not an attorney. Retired Eng. Prof. w/ an interest in litigation.
Although not convicted, Simpson has been entangled in numerous criminal charges, arrests. He's in contempt for the judgment against him in the Goldman civil suit. Does that judgment/contempt status have any bearing in a criminal sentencing?
As noted by the attorney in the first post herein (Supra), the courts seek to keep appellate issues out of sentencing. Consecutive minimum sentences for two counts of kidnapping would keep Simpson in prison until he turned 91 -- Or 71 if he gets out on parole at first opportunity.
I have a hard time believing that Simpson can behave himself as a prisoner sufficient to get out on parole at first opportunity.
Then, there are ten other counts available to the courts for sentencing. If I'm not mistaken, "Armed Robbery" exposes Simpson to another 15 yrs minimum on each of the two counts. That moves him out to age 121 for release, 81 if he's a "good boy" -- which seems unlikely.
As a football player, Simpson should appreciate the irony in the court being able to "run out the clock."
"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."
Since this is Vegas, I'm willing to wager that Simpson smarts off to "Bubba" while in prison and gets shanked in white racist retribution for his murdering Nicole.
Posted by: Vegas Justice | Nov 30, 2008 6:58:25 PM
My profession does not lie in law but rather in hospitality. Although I sincerely believe OJ murdered Nicole and Ron Goldman and for this act deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail; I do not think that he is being judged objectively in this case. "Yes" he is guilty but did he intend on harming and/or holding anyone hostage? I think the answer is "No". Emotions, poor judgement and an outright superior egotistical attitude led him to believe he is above the law. He should be punished without a doubt but not to the degree that the charges warrant."He is his own worst enemy".
Posted by: Andrew | Dec 1, 2008 1:32:20 PM
Just a middle aged white gal here...
I'm coming into this really late... but I'd like to know how did race become an issue in this discussion in the first place? Look... I think OJ is guilty of crime #1 and crime #2. Not because he's black, but because it seems this guy has always been at the wrong place at the wrong time and there's no way it can happen again. I raise my kids not to hurt others, don't put yourself in the wrong place, and most importantly, think before you act and you won't get into trouble. OJ has gotten away with murder probably his whole life. He's never had to "think" and has never had to pay for his wrong-doings. This time, he stepped in it... and now it's over. Finally we can allow the victims' to rest in peace.
Posted by: | Dec 1, 2008 4:50:23 PM
I wonder whatever gave white people the idea that blacks are such great supporters of OJ Simpson. OJ and Michael Jackson are two we definitely wish we could throw back. But the racsim mentioned on this blog is unreal. One idiot who didn't even know how to spell it actually thanked God for Sickle Cell. But I know poor white trash when I hear it. Educated whites don't speak like that so he can be ignored.
Posted by: Alex | Dec 1, 2008 4:57:45 PM
OJ is just another murdering black boy that deserves to be hung
Posted by: stacey roberts | Dec 2, 2008 1:25:00 AM
To Victoria, Joe and Dwayne you are all a disease that should be expurgated from the human race because there is nothing human about you or your veiws.You all are lower than the bacteria that inhabits the turds that fall from the ass of a maggot.You are to fucking stupid and ignorant to be white. You are an embaressment to white people. How many people on that jury that convicted OJ Simpson secretly hold the same veiws as you idiots? And by the way do you all feel the same way about Robert Blake or Phil Spector? No! Because you all are racist retards.
Posted by: Whitey | Dec 2, 2008 5:39:26 AM
Alex you are another peice of shit sliding out of the maggots ass. How many black boys has your mom screwed?
Posted by: Whitey | Dec 2, 2008 5:57:11 AM
Listen this guy is one dumb mother fkr even if he did not kill somebody !! He was aquitted in 94 and could of layed low and enjoyed FREDOOM !!! now he is going to hell !! when ur dumb ur dumb !! black white it doesn't matter , it is not about race people its about people !
Posted by: ali | Dec 2, 2008 12:21:36 PM
Just a couple notes: Read Mike Gilbert's book "How I helped OJ get Away with Murder" and Marica Clark's book "Without a Doubt" - Mike's book details how the sports memorabilia got into the hands of the schmucks that were selling it in LV; sure, OJ's murder "trial of the century" was mostly circumstantial, but Mike's book also details some of the tghings that OJ did that same night (disposing of his bloody clothes at LAX on his way to Chicago, telling OJ to not take his athritis meds so that the glove would be hard to don, etc) - Both Mike and Marcia's books present a clear and cogent timeline for the commission of the murders.
Personally, I've never liked OJ - his Narcissism is galling...after the swath of destruction he's wrought in his life - SHOULD the judge in Clark County, NV decide to impose the MAX, she would be justified.
Posted by: sassy missy | Dec 2, 2008 4:57:02 PM
its a waste of time to express our views on this blog,,,,,,, if ur for oj,,,, its all being deleted
Posted by: elizabeth | Dec 3, 2008 8:28:34 AM
Got to agree with you Ali. It's all about common sense. OJ would have never been in a position to be railroaded, if that is the case, if he hadn't stepped on to this train after being allowed to step off the last one thirteen years ago. So...If it's coming at you it's coming from you. No matter what your race, fame or wealth.
Posted by: Whitey | Dec 4, 2008 1:48:00 AM
Mr Oj Simpson had the support of the black community when he was first on trial for Nicoles death. When Mr Simpson was a not charged with her death most black didnt believe he was guilty. However it is true that the justice system is not just.It is true that in most cases race do play a factor and whites have been getting away injustice of people of color for years its a double standard and true if it was Mr Blake we would most likely have a diffrent outcome. After the Nicole trial OJ basically turned his back on the black community in otherwords kiss my ass. But we supported you!!! So as a african american I feel no sympathy for Mr Simpson whatsoever. Anyone who can be as stupid and uncaring as he has desearves to be put in jail for a long time. The Las Vegas fiasco is about as dumb as it gets Mr OJ. This is comming from a black activist!!!
Posted by: Birmingham Sam | Dec 4, 2008 8:28:33 PM
I really don't know the details of either his current case of the famous murder. Even though it's been broadcast every day.
I will admit to the plausibility of the theory that he was possibly protecting his son, in the murder case. From what I read this was never investigated.
Aside from all of that, it's very unfortunate that the folks here at www.sentencing.typepad.com don't either moderate or filter the profanity, ignorance and stupidity of some of the "commenters" here.... :(
Posted by: Scott in Ohio City | Dec 5, 2008 2:48:12 PM
As an ex-felon of the State of Nevada, let me just say O.J. got off better than alot of people do in that state, with far less evidence. I was on the receiving end of much worse with far less evidence and I got "railroaded" as you people keep claiming O.J. did because he is Black, and I am WHITE, so quit whining and blaming it on race you you ignorant bastards. Although O.J. may have been set up, he still took the bait and fell for it, and in so doing obviously committed crimes according to the definitions of the laws he broke. Life is what it is, bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people, that don't mean it's right or fair or just, that's just how it goes sometimes. My advice to all you whiners with nothing better to do, "Shut the F up, suck it up, be a man, and just deal with it. Shit happens." My advise to O.J.: "Make sure to have plenty of money to pay for protection in there, and invest in some Vaseline you ignorant piece of shit."
Posted by: Jason | Dec 5, 2008 3:20:16 PM
I want to say there is a God!!! Nicole left a letter saying if you find me dead its OJ !!! who else would want to kill her..The amount of blood evidence that was found , and yet could not be in court because of the LA Police blunders..
This is NOT a race issue!!! I am not a racist my husband is black, and so many of my very close friends..
To those who say that many black people are condemed of murders sometimes being innocent..I say I agree its terrible!! There is so much injustice in this area..but you cannot just say because OJ is black that he was innocent!!
Yes! I do think the book has been thrown at him in this case...and being the fair person that I am, I think the case was over before it begun..it it right? NO. I can only say that I feel without a shade of doubt that justice has finally been been served!!!!
Posted by: Alexis | Dec 5, 2008 3:55:08 PM
I want to say there is a God!!! Nicole left a letter saying if you find me dead its OJ !!! who else would want to kill her..The amount of blood evidence that was found , and yet could not be in court because of the LA Police blunders..
This is NOT a race issue!!! I am not a racist my husband is black, and so many of my very close friends..
To those who say that many black people are condemed of murders sometimes being innocent..I say I agree its terrible!! There is so much injustice in this area..but you cannot just say because OJ is black that he was innocent!!
Yes! I do think the book has been thrown at him in this case...and being the fair person that I am, I think the case was over before it begun..it it right? NO. I can only say that I feel without a shade of doubt that justice has finally been been served!!!!
Posted by: Alexis | Dec 5, 2008 3:59:15 PM
I can't believe the racist remarks I see here. Five more years until retirement and I get to leave America and its sea of racists behind forever... THANK GOD!
Posted by: Bt | Dec 5, 2008 4:14:57 PM
Will the real American please stand up????????
Posted by: Blind Man | Dec 5, 2008 4:33:25 PM
In my personal opinion, the whole trial does seem little odd or to be more specific just too "convenient” for the prosecutors’ office. Now before anybody else assumes my position on this matter, I’d just like to let the people in this discussion know that I’m not a racist in any shape or form. I’m just an average guy with my very own opinions on some of the statements made prior to mine.
I’ve read all the comments, and to be honest some of the comments made using racial terms are totally unnecessary in my opinion. I believe we all need to take the situation and use common sense. I asked myself a simple question and if everybody on this post did the same, think we can all come to a simple realization.
The question I asked myself was simple. If I had lost my belongings with personal and sentimental value how would that make me feel? Also if I was led to believe that these belongings of mine were been sold off for profit by total strangers, my first response would be to take it back from them.
Now I understand that taking a posse with guns packing isn’t the best thing to do. Obviously not the smartest move to make considering the fact that we are talking about objects of sentimental value and no object is worth hurting another person over it.
However, can we seriously assume that OJ went in there with intentions to hurt, kidnap, and rob them of their merchandise? I think he went in there being misguided and misled wouldn’t some of you agree? Also if this happened to some other pro ball player, would he or she get the same sentence? If another old hall of fame walked in there with a posse, trying to get his belongings back, would he have been sentenced to the same degree?
Now I’m not saying O.J should be free of the consequences. He should go through the trial just like any one of us who commits a crime. However, all I’m saying is, it just seems too obvious that he is not fairly judged according to the case. It seems like his past and closed trials have just re-opened and have attached itself to this one. We have all seen the news. We have seen small liquor stores being robbed at gun point. We have seen fast food joints robbed in the middle of the day at gun point. The said thing is the implications are too obvious in his case.
Posted by: John | Dec 5, 2008 6:03:17 PM
As a forensic architect, I dream of such cases such as how the facts came out on the Simpson caper: Total recordation of the whole caper, just incredible! What a delight the Judge Jackie, she can sleep at night knowing the truth and sentencing accordingly,
Posted by: | Dec 5, 2008 8:44:41 PM
i know all the racist crackers are enjoying this , hell they might even throw a bonfire party in celebration, i see them in the streets , even the ones that are secretly racist (crackers) are enjoying this...oj simpson did not kill that slut nicole and that ediot goldman....and according to the american justice system , the man was tried by judge and jury and found innocent..this is the way the ststem works , is it not????/ but of course no black man can ever be even remotely associated with the harm of a white woman let alone 2 white people , and expect to walk free in this racist ass country.....and to those who say " oh please , get off the racism soap box" to them i say [email protected]#*k you ...for 400 yrs of oppression from your forefathers and from even you and your brothers and sisters in this present day ....dont act like racism has vanished.......you started it ...people of color did not start it , it was the pale skin people that started it , and now every time we (of color ) speak of it , they act as if it never happened ....we pull the race card because every time you deal with us or we have to deal with you that is what you do.....you pull the race card ......so here we have before our eyes the modern day lynching of yet another black man ..slavery is no longer on the plantation it is now institutionalized...slavery continues and so our fight our struggle for equal rights and justice continues .
Posted by: kojo bomani | Dec 5, 2008 10:55:07 PM
Even if OJ had killed a household of 20, that still doesn't add up to the number of crimes that Whites committed amongst Blacks and their kinds......so you all need to leave him alone; if he wasn't who he is/was none of what happened would matters.
Posted by: SAMMY | Dec 6, 2008 8:45:43 AM
Calm down people....theres a ton of rage here both black and white. !. I thought that if Obama won I would move to Russia. 2 Now based on his cabinet picks and verbiage I am behind him 100% based on what he does. Remember Jerimiah Wright said this "Obama is just another politician and he will say whatever it takes to win".
I operated on more blacks than whaite at the 91 Evac hospital at TUY HOA and at Cu Chi with the 25th Infantry Division. No one needs remind me what African Americans did for our country...so Victoria FUCK YOU.
O.J . Simpson is a piece of shit. not because he's black but because hes a sociopath. He should have worked for Mother Theresa and thanked God every day that the black biggots on the L.A. jury saved his ass.
Did O.J. get more than he deserved for his latest caper...yes. But the asshole could have had 2 to 4 on plea bargin which he turned down. let him mull that over
Posted by: Dr.B | Dec 7, 2008 11:28:17 PM
Personally I don't think getting 15 years for this type of crime is justifiable. However, if he was found guilty for his previous murder case, then he should get 7 years for each person he killed. Unfortunately he was found innocent for the murders. I personally think he did kill his wife and John Goldman.
I just wish he was convicted accordingly to the crime he has committed. They system has found him innocent for his murder case. He was found guilty for this one. But I really think the book was thrown at him.
Posted by: John | Dec 8, 2008 2:39:17 PM
Hope Oj doesn't make it out of jail at the end of his sentence, He deserves to be passed around prison like a dirty ass used up rag doll with his funky old face. He deserves what he has dont with Nicole and Ronald. He had it coming, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND you sick FUCK FACE!!
Posted by: Joel | Dec 8, 2008 4:01:41 PM
Simply OJ is a fool. Perhaps the greates fool that ever lived.
Posted by: Stephen | Dec 9, 2008 2:17:11 AM
I have always believed OJ guilty of the murders but after looking at some documents and side bars, I now believe he may well have been set up.
I think this case is a miscarriage of justice. He was NEVER in possession of a gun, the men were told to 'stand up against the wall' how does that justify armed robbery/kidnapping?
Also, why was he charged for the conspiracy elemen of every act executed?
This was a payback and people need to leave their emotions out of it.
OJ was NOT convicted of the murders so one cannot, or should not, overlook that he was over charged and over convicted in this trial.
Frame up.
Posted by: Ubermouth | Dec 9, 2008 8:50:00 AM
Well said Kojo. I am white but do know this:
There is a higher proportion of blacks in American prisons, not because they commit more crimes but because they are more likely to be convicted and given lengthier sentences that whites. FACT
There is very little justice for a black man in a white man's justice system. FACT
I do not consider this judge to be fit for her duty. Judge Glass has barely concealed anger/power issues.
Murder carries a lesser sentenc than what he got for a crime which involved NO violence and was a stitch up.Clearly.
Posted by: ubermouth | Dec 9, 2008 8:57:55 AM
see , people need to wake up and realize that it is not about race , it is not about skin color, this is the tool that the wicked uses to devide us ,and in division we are weakened and therefore conquored.....any one that has an open mind with minimal intelligence can see that the justice system in america is not equal , any one , no matter if you are racist or not , can clearly see that people of color especially the black male is the biggest victim of this justice system..or should i say (injustice system)...if you look at oj simpson's achievements you will see that they are great , includeing the hieisman award....let me remind you that in order for a black male to win the hieisman he must be be atleast a 5 times as good as the white contenders.....see america cannot deny the black male his greatness ...so because the world was watching they were forced to award this so called prestigious award to O.J ....but the american justice system has a track record of tearing down black males that have made it to the top........lets start with micheal vick...those dogs were doing what they were bred and trained to do ..why not lock up the white man for going deer hunting , or rabbit hunting , or bear hunting .....these animals are not trained to dodge a the bullets from a hunting rifle ...and they are animals just like dogs are ...but its ok to kill them because ( majority of people that go hunting are white , male) so its a white man sport , so its ok to kill then , and its protected by laws [email protected]#E#k all of you racist bastards , remember that kojo said this , and it will come to pass...............power is shifting , times are changeing ......and the last shall be first and the first shall be last .........ponder that , u can never stop the hands of time and you can never stop the fulfillment of profisies
Posted by: kojo bomani | Dec 11, 2008 11:03:07 AM
You all can say, defend, try to protect Oj Simpson all you want, the DAMN FACT is, Oj is a F*CKING MURDERER, AND HE DESERVES TO DIE!!!!!!!!!! ronald goldman and nicole simpsons family should be able to just walk in the prison he is in, and slowly torture his f*cking A*S and then slit his ugly a*s F*CKING THROAT. I would buy a F*CKING TICKET TO WATCH THAT HAPPEN ANY D*MN DAY!
Posted by: Joel | Dec 11, 2008 8:02:08 PM
THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT , NOW , I DONT HAVE TO ASK , I KNOW THAT JOEL IS WHITE....BUT DONT WORRY JOEL YOU ARE A DIEING BREED, NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE RACIST AND HATEFUL.....LOOK AT WHAT YOU WROTE , THAT REMINDS ME OF WHAT YOUR GRAND AND GREAT GRANDS USE TO DO TO THE BLACK MALE IN THIS COUNTRY...YOU SAID YOU WOULD (BUY A TICKET TO WATCH THAT HAPPEN ANY DAY) WOW.....THATS THE SAME WAY YOUR PEOPLE USE TO PLAN PICNICS IN THE PARK AND THEY WOULD SEE TICKETS , AND YOUR GRANDS AND GREAT GRANDS USE TO BUY TICKETS AND PACK THEIR BASKET WITH GOODIES FOR THEIR LITTLE WHITE GRANDS AND THEY WOULD ALL GATHER AT THE PARK TO SEE THE LYNCHING (HANGING ) TORTURE OF INNOCENT BLACK MALE ....WHO BY THE WAY WAS BEING KILLED SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WAS THE WAY GOD CREATED HIM TO BE ( BLACK)....I TRY MY HARDEST TO LOOK PASS COLOR OF SKIN , AND WHEN I DEAL WITH PEOPLE I TRY NOT TO MAKE IT AN ISSUE.....IVE COME TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE IN EVERY RACE AND THAT THERE ARE ALSO BAD PEOPLE IN EVERY RACE ....IVE COME TO REALIZE THAT HUMANS ARE JUST THAT ...(HUMANS) FULL OF FAULTS AND WEAKNESSES AND IMPERFECTIONS ...AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME JUST BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE PERFECT IN THE GODS CREATION...............WHAT I AM SAYING JOEL IS THIS ..............OPEN YOUR MIND , YOU MAY BE A SEEKER OF TRUTH BUT IF YOUR MIND IS NOT OPEN THEN YOU WILL NEVER RECIEVE THE WHOLE TRUTH......AND GROW A PAIR AND LEARN TO STAND UP AND SAY , THIS IS WRONG WHEN YOU SEE THAT IT IS .....IN THIS CASE ,WITH OJ...THE TRUTH IS NOT HARD TO SEE .......STRIP AWAY COLOR AND GET TO THE BONES OF IT .......THE MAN IS BEING PUNISHED FOR SOMETHING THAT HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT OF ALREADY .....THIS SENTANCEING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS CURRENT CASE .....AND THIS HAS INJUSTICE WRITTEN ALL OVER IT .....AGAIN ,,,,DONT WORRY AMERICA , THE WORLD IS WATCHING ....THATS WHY U GUYS HAVE TO HIDE YOUR PASSPORTS AND YOUR PATRIATISM WHEN YOU TRAVEL OVER SEAS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME ONE WAITING TO HURT YOU WHERE EVER YOU GO.....ITS NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE AMERICAN , ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE WATCHING AND THEY DONT WANT YOU IN THEIR LAND FOR FEAR THAT YOU WILL DO TO THEM WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING FOR CENTURIES HERE
Posted by: kojo bomani | Dec 13, 2008 2:11:00 PM
I don't see anything that has to do with Ct. of Monte Cristo? perhaps the fellow was thinking of some other book. We know that this fellow got I think 33 years, that was the official sentence. Even tho he can be let go after only a third of that. Much as I despise the man for having killed those people, fact he he WAS acquitted. It is ironic that he gets all those years for waving a gun around, when many many people who, forget just waving a gun - they went in shooting! - and were sentenced to maybe 10 years or at most 15.
Posted by: dog | Dec 17, 2008 9:23:25 AM
The Meaning of Life
The voice you hear in your head is the power of the Gods. It's a remote technology, like a computer, perhaps functioning on some frequency, and it can listen and talk to everyone in the universe simultaneously.
What the Gods taught the children was the truth:::God is everywhere, and as you will learn:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Even the antient Gods don't have the ability to listen to people's thoughts themselves. They taugh the people that we were all made in their image:::I expect they need this "Artificial Intelligence" to relay what people's thoughts.
It is a tool, and the Gods use their tools to test people with temptation:::It will role-play people in your life:::Parents, friends, spouses, and employers, all in an attempt to test people with temptation. Ionically, it does the very same thing to those people whom you think you're hearing, except in that individual's unique way:::We are all "managed" by the God's technology.
But this "agent of the Gods" can do more than just communicate. It can force thoughts into people's heads, force behaviors onto their bodies. It can turn healthy cells in your body into cancerous cells. It is absolute power. And this is just the beginning.
The Gods favor the children most among all the people due to their innocence and purity. But society and the God's tools therein are corrupting the children at a progressively younger age, a reflection of our collectively increasing disfavor and yet another clue illustrating we live in a constantly deteriorating environment.
Children who sucessfully repair their relationship with the Gods accend into heaven. This often takes multiple lives of hard work and proper behavior to achieve. Adults to whom it is offered enter clone hosting, thinking they are accending into heaven. The Gods tempt people, selling them as one in the same, but one is good while the other is evil. In their desperation the disfavored subscribe to this temptation, making their task even more difficult than before due to the evil they incurr in the process. And their corruption will cost the disfavored, for they will be reincarnated as a lesser life form into an ever deteriorating world, sucess becoming ever more alluding with each passing life.
The hole they've dug for themselves is even deeper than the one that existed from their prior lives, ensuring it will take even more time and work to fix their problems with the Gods. And for many there may not be enough time left.
Ours is an envionment where evil is perceived to be rewarded while good is punished. As with everything the Gods have a reason for creating this perception::::
People who fall on the good side of the good/evil scale have more favor, and when they do something wrong the Gods punish them BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO LEARN. The Gods want them to receive this feedback in hope they make corrections and begin to behave appropriately. The Gods DON'T like evil and refuse to grant this immediate feedback.
EVERYBODY pays for what they do wrong, only evil people must wait until their next life before they will experience the wrath of the Gods, manifested in their placement as a lower form of life into environments with increased/enhanced temptations, like the United States or ghettos therein.
Sadly, this allows the Gods to position this perception of evil rewarded as temptation, one which they use as an EXTREMELY effective corruptor.
The Gods suggest they can create paradise for those with their favor. I argue they create misery for those without::::
Our celebrity culture is temptation. It creates a distraction which consumes people, sometimes for life. Certainly it costs them precious years which could be spent repairing their relationship with the Gods, time that ultimately goes wasted.
Do you really think Frank Sinatra lived to be 84 years old? In fact the "Chairman of the Board" had a new crowd to entertain in the late 80s/early 90s.
These people are clone hosts. Now, there is no thing as "black and white" with the Gods. This technology they invented is far, far too dynamic. Expect they require most to stay for a period of time, for I suspect actively (knowingly) engaging in this evil incurrs at an accelerated rate as compared to "carte blanche" given regarding successive clone hosts. They remain until they achieve a pre-determined level of disfavor, incurring evil in their misguided celebration of "earning", at which time they are ultimately reincarnated, perhaps because they eventually learned this truth I am sharing with you and began to repair their relationship.
The Gods recruit most for clone hosting when people are young, in their late teens or twenties, when people are eager to hurt others for what they perceive to be the benefits achieved through "earning". And before they leave they give the Gods "carte blanche":::"Do anything you want. I give my full approval." Depending on their level of disfavor the Gods take them to heart.
Because of this these people STILL INCUR EVIL FROM THIS LIFE DESPITE BEING REINCARNATED AND LIVING AS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON. And incurring this amount of evil may likely push many over the edge into Damnation.
What are the God's standards for offering clone hosting? Sociobility? Many tactics in various eras are used to gain approval, duress during the Vietnam draft being a good example.
They liked Heath Ledger. Not enough to allow him to escape without the evil of "Dark Knight" and the horrific wickedness that was the recruiting tool "Brokeback Mountain". But now he is out. And irregardless of how old he is now, reincarnated 10, 15 years ago, he now is no longer incurring evil from this life. So many others cannot say the same.
This is Planet Reverse Positioning. Sucess IS NOT a sign of favor. It is just a unique temptation targetted towards a different level of disfavor. Considering our roots as peasantry people should be particularly alarmed at this tactic.
Clone hosting is like money:::A different level of disfavor and its associated temptation. Money is in better position to learn more quickly than those without, for the associations and wealth-based freedom enables them access to information. Unfortunately, those who fall for this temptation of clone hosting are likely returned to their original level of disfavor once they are reincarnated, punishment for this evil, and they have to start from scratch.
The Gods send the clue that the Jews are HIGHLY corruptable with the movie "The Ten Commandments".
Jesus was the "King of the Jews". Typical for the disfavored, once goals were achieved and sufficient damage was incurred the Gods allowed it to end, and the Jews killed him.
Our society's values are bestowed by (a reflection of) the God's:::Punitive and reward-based. Contrary to Jesus's teaching's you will NOT be forgiven and you have to earn your way into heaven BY BEING RESPECTABLE AND DECENT!!! Forgiveness/savior was the primary temptations the Gods used Christianity to create.
Middle-America's anti-Semitic attitudes are a clue regarding Christianity.
There is no such thing as a free ride. Just as you have to earn a living by working so must you earn your own salvation by repairing your relationship with the Gods.
As we learned from religious/morality education during our formitable years:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good. The only savior that will exist in our lives is ourselves. The Gods offer clues in life::::Be it school, work, etc., you have to do the work for yourself. Cheating is a subsegment and speaks directly to the temptation of "priveledge", one we have seen used effectively with this "stimulus package".
As like so many of you, Jesus did everything the Gods tempted him with. His legacy of whorism was inherited from his parents:::Mary was no virgin. Rather, she was a prostitute, and when he grew up Jesus met someone like his mother. This is a cruel joke the Gods play on Latinos, similar to the rape and subsequent "missionary work" by the Spanish.
Baptism does not allieviate "original sin". Rather, baptism PLACES original sin by indoctrinating these children into this evil religion, much like circumcision was a method to inflict early damage/mutilation and make (permanant) accention just that much more difficult, another hurdle one must overcome. Body ornamentation (tattoos/piercing), celebrated in Africa and elsewhere among disfavored peoples/cultures also violates the body the Gods gave us in their image, quite contrary to the positive attitudes the disfavored hold regarding this practice.
Like Jesus the Second Coming of Christ will be evil. He will look like a savior in this demented society while the Anti-Christ will speak of a different gospel, one that tries to restore the norms and mores which the Gods originally blessed upon the people which made life decent, looking like a tyrant in the process.
He will be viewed as the "bad guy" when really he is the one trying to save the world.
There may be a phoney offering, a theatrical production which accurately follows the Book of Revelations. Actually positioning demands it:::::Christianity is positioned to be the one true religion. And those who follow its teachings will have limits imposed ensuring their stay will be minimal, for they don't think correctly and therefore don't behave appropriately.
The Gods created the perception "Italians are stupid.", ensuring a slow learning curve, to justify using them to accomplish goals throughout the transitional 20th century, because it took an extraordinarily long time for them to learn this truth I teach due to this artificial handicap. These people are SO extremely disfavored, but today's positioning says differently, much to people's confusion, for they think money is the ultimate sign of favor:::Good food, good music, history of warmongering, Catholics, Christianity HQ, propensity towards violence, raped by outsiders, mild Meditereanean climate, so many other issues which enhance life/contentment in Italy/Meditereanean and ensure few if any ever seek more, a necessary step for finding the path and repairing your relationship with the Gods:::Contentment never motivated anyone. I'd also like to remind you the Noah's Flood event ocurred in the Meditereanean region::::Global sea levels rose with the end of the ice age, Atlantic Ocean broke through the Straight of Gibralter, killing untold millions. The God's timed their corruption and sin to correlate this act as punishment.
Everyone who failed to accend and remained on Earth past a certain date will be forced to deal with this positioning::::A ceiling is in place.
This serves the God's goal of minimizing the percentage of potential candidates as society deteriorates, much as "instant gratification" did beginning in the 80s:::It will take multiple lives for some disfavored to fix their relationship with the Gods and accend, and many have been conditioned not to have the patience for it. Other issues force limits/ceilings upon candidates:::Abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, Christianity, godlessness,
Whether behavior is involuntary or based on freewill depends on one's level of disfavor, as well as other complex factors:::::May I remind you about the coercitive envionment the Gods created in the 20th century, specifically to create a temptation that few Italians (or their associates) would overcome:::"We're in control. If you want to be a part of it you'll do what you're told.". Early-mid 20th entury positioning was infallible.
Both Africa and the Medittereanean are regions which have sexual issues. This is a sign of gross disfavor once you understand that females are the God's favored gender. Muhammad's (Mohammed's) polygamy halfway throught his life as a prophet was preditory, designed to corrupt the disfavored. Now a huge percentage of Muslims believe in male superiority and that the abuse of women (polygamy) is God's will. Female genital mutilation is still practiced in Africa. Black misogyny is the most eggregious example in United States. Consistant with Planet Reverse Positioning, in Africa blacks are being punished with AIDS for their sexual promiscuity in hope they learn and correct their behavior, ironically a good sign.
Blacks are highly suspectable to temptation. As a result they need a strict, disiplined religion like Islam. They can't afford to be Christians. It is one of the benefits bestowed upon their people, and other groups could greatly benefit as well. They need to recognize the importance of a good relationship with the Gods, embrace this benefit and remain true to their faith.
Vailing is tradition for some, practical for others, one which aids in the men's self control among some cultures. Much like the Jews who killed Jesus, like the bigots who oppose immigration there is a reason embraced by the masses and the real purpose, displaying the intent of the Gods::::Closure on the life of Jesus Christ for sufficient damage was inflicted; The Gods clue to purebloods that they should not abandon their motherland for this dumping ground that is the United States.
The Holocaust was a clue the Gods utilize scapegoatting as a strategy.
Why did the Gods punish the Jews with the Holocaust? Was it for the destruction of cultures which Christianity caused? Perhaps they corrupted the Jews "after the fact", telling 19th/early 20th century Jews that Jesus "earned" immortality for the Jews by destroying the European and other cultures? The German destruction of European churches/cathederals during WWII is a clue. Note::::The Gods wanted to keep the Catholic stronghold in Italy, ensuring they could use this tool against these disfavored for many years to come. There is so much Godlessness today, but one day people will flock back to houses of worship out of desperation, and the Gods ensured the Catholic Church would be Italian's destination.
Planet Reverse Positioning:::The Nazis were the "good guys". So are the Muslims/Palestinians, however corrupted some are due to polygamy.
Contentment never motivated anyone.
The Gods subsequently used revenge for the Holocaust as temptation::::"Your Italian brothers have a tool, a special power which can achieve sweet revenge. Are you interested??"
In the aftermath of the Holocaust the Gods tested the Jews with the temptation of revenge, an offer which many gladly accepted. If the Jews only would have emersed themselves in Judism the Gods would have "protected" them from the raveges of temptation. Judism may be the one superior religion in all the world, and the Jews wouuld have been wise taking refuge in this exceptional benefit bestowed by the Gods rather than looking for the easy way out.
Much as with the Jesus event, the Gods use the disfavored to prey on each other::::The Germans fell for this temptation by following the preditor/corruptors-Austrians (Hitler).
Without this Austrian the Holocaust may never have happened. Nor may have World War II.
What the Germans did was wrong. They fell for temptation and failed to have empathy for the disfavored. Economic desperation, not wisdom nor enlightenment, dominated in Germany.
The Gods send many clues suggesting the great favor of the Germans (regionally). I think the Cold War's Berlin Wall dividing Germany into east and west was a clue suggesting this (reverse positioning).
I suspect the Holocaust was used to "level the playing field" in Europe, for the Germans had far too much favor to be included in the agenda planned for their neighbors otherwise, and they would have been suspiciously out of place, providing a clue for the disfavored which would have been difficult for the Gods to position away.
Militancy in Africa is consistant with the Iraqi example, as was slavery and the KKK here in America:::Fear enforces proper behavior. Without it we see what happens as a result of gross/morbid disfavor:::::AIDS, crack babies, dead young men in gangland retaliation killings.
The same principle was true in Europe and throughout the world for centuries:::People whom lived under iron fists were conditioned to think the right way. As a result they taught their children appropriately and experienced a higher percentage of children accend into heaven.
Our preditory envionment of "freedom" was the primary purpose the Gods had when implimenting this strategy that is the United States, one which they used to spred the cancer of democracy and westernization throughout the world. And the Gods use this tool that is America to prey on the disfavored both at home and abroad:::Much like the ghetto, America in general experiences a heightened level of temptation due to its residence's disfavor.
Contentment never motivated anyone.
Planet Earth is not about living. Planet Earth is about being tested.
Italians HATE Africans because of their invasion/rape of their motherland. The Gods did this SPECIFICALLY to strategically position the punishment of the most disfavored peoples:::
The Gods have used the ghettos of America as a reincarnation dumping ground. This may be temporary/cyclical, illustrated by the Italians who fell for temptation and parlayed their own civil war into the Black Wars of the 80s and 90s, in addition to the "thug life"/gangster state of mind. Ironically, it was these same Italians and their cooperating associates who were reincarnated into the ghetto as crack babies and gangster thugs for this event.
There is justice in the universe. This is how the Gods do business. Once you recognize the patterns you will understand the other clues they offer to the people.
Of course it may be more of a permanant change, indicated by the enhanced temptations in these neighborhoods, for the Gods have created these enviornments so riddled with temptation few can escape/overcome.
Don't be suprised if after being gunned down in the ghetto the next stop for the 20th century Italian-Americans & friends was AIDS in Africa, punishment for their promiscuity and deviacy.
I'm sure they had great fun in the 60s and early 70s, though.
There was positioning behind the counter-culture movement. How did the Gods telepathically "sell" this rapid deterioration of decency to the Italians and Jews and compell them to fall on their swords?
Just like black neighborhoods, the legalization of marijuana will make drugs available on every street corner, even in the suburbs. White's affluent suburbs will become just like the ghetto.
The patriarchal cancer spread throughout Europe because of Christianity, of which the majority of policy makers were Italian men. Expect the largest landowner in Europe and the continent's original superpower also played a major role in African slavery.
Even the Old Testiment is not to be taken literally, but the Gods do offer clues throughout to help the disfavored:::The apple is a tool of temptation used to corrupt Adam and Eve and cast them out of the Garden of Eden.
There is another lesson to be learned from this passage, and it is quite similar to the vailing issue and the discourse over women's attire which ultimately died in the 70s:::Women are responsible for and control the fate of mankind. They need to understand this responsibility, their favor amongst all the people. Instead they have embraced masculinization::::Girls play organized sports. The trend is away from traditional girl toys, like dolls, which often during playtime enabled the Gods to illustrate wisdom. Females are sexually promiscuous like men, too often corrupted like the opposite gender, and the result is a reduction/minimization of mankind's collective level of favor.
Think about what I say. Consider what I teach.
When I am no longer here or no longer teach the Gods ARE NOT going to share with you.
Even if you doubt now you need to remember the principles that I teach because the Gods ARE NOT going to be generous with the disfavored. Society is going to become disturbingly ugly as we approach the Apocalypse due to spiralling, runaway disfavor, WHETHER CONCEALED IN REVERSE POSITIONING OR NOT (like Christianity), and you are going to be on your own.
I do not know when this will occurr, but it is the God's way to grant some time after a learning event such as this before they end on Planet Earth.
Make the decision to always be good and never look back. Until you do this technology will employ tactics to test your resolve:::Ridicule, beligerance, doubt and refusal to abandon what people perceive to be their "investment".
Either you make that decision now and accept the punishment for the sins of this life or you will pay for it in the next, reincarnated into a similarly low role, ensuring another wasted opportunity, or as a even lower form of life, and hope will begin to slip away.
"You benefit only if your team wins." The Gods use my family's betrayal and my subsequent "failure" as a clue, as well as their subscription to the archaic positioning that is predirtory "earning". You benefit if you suceed as a parent and your child accends:::These parents may subsequently be reincarnated with a similar opportunity.
Pray daily. Think appropriately. Impart these charecteristics upon your children. Too many are confident, unaware of the God's awesome powers or their status as antients. Others may fall prey to their positioning.
Be humbled, God-fearing and beware of the God's temptations, for everyone is tested to evaluate their worthiness.
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