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August 12, 2017

"Trump Wants to Get Tough on Crime. Victims Don’t Agree."

The title of this post is the headline of this intriguing New York Times piece about the results of this interesting recent survey of "crime survivors." Here are excerpts:

Sending more people to prison, deporting illegal immigrants, cracking down on marijuana use — those are some of the things the Trump administration has said will make America safer.  But what do crime victims think about all this? It is a group whose views are rarely measured, but a poll commissioned by the Alliance for Safety and Justice sought to find out.

A few notes of caution: The group supports criminal justice reform, including incarcerating fewer people, and seeks to promote the voices of victims who agree.  And the random survey, which has a margin of sampling error of 3.4 percent, was taken in May, before President Trump repeatedly criticized Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, on Twitter.

But it is a rare chance to hear from victims, more than 800 of whom were asked about their views on the administration’s criminal justice policies.  By and large, their priorities appear very different from the president’s.

Half of respondents said they felt less safe since Mr. Trump took office, though it was not clear that this was because of his approach to criminal justice.  Only 39 percent said they felt less safe when Mr. Trump discussed crime or criminal justice.  But when the president posts on Twitter, the number who feel less safe jumps to 57 percent, according to the survey.

About three in four said they were happy with their local police and law enforcement in general. While only about 42 percent rated Mr. Trump favorably, that was higher than the president’s favorability rating among the general population at the time. About a third held positive views of Mr. Sessions.

When victims were asked to name two things that contributed most to crime in their communities, just 12 percent blamed undocumented immigrants.  Almost nobody thought there were too few people in prison.  Instead, more than half named drug and alcohol addiction, and nearly a third pointed to poor parenting.  Mental health issues and a lack of job opportunities also ranked high on the list.

“‘Lock ’em up and throw away the key,’ that’s the traditional way of thinking, but many victims don’t want ‘tough on crime’ and incarceration,” said Aswad Thomas, 34, who was shot twice in the back during a robbery attempt in Hartford in 2009, ending his plans to play professional basketball. “Most of us want more rehabilitation services for crime victims.”

Mr. Thomas, now the membership director at the Alliance, said once he found out that both of the young men who had shot him had been victims of crime themselves, he became convinced that offering counseling and trauma services to victims could itself help reduce violent crime.

A vast majority of respondents supported increasing treatment for addiction and mental health, while they were less enthusiastic about Trump administration policies like seeking the maximum punishment for drug offenders and increasing deportations, which only 40 percent of respondents favored.  Nearly two-thirds said they did not want federal drug laws to be enforced in states where marijuana use has been legalized....

A majority of respondents — 84 percent — said additional funding should be spent on rehabilitation and drug and mental health treatment programs for people in the justice system. Some views held true despite the respondents’ political leanings. Among those who said they held a favorable opinion of Mr. Trump, more than half chose addiction as a leading driver of crime.

August 12, 2017 at 02:25 PM | Permalink


You can always find 10% of people who will collaborate with the enemy. Soros, a Jew, was a Jew hunter for the Nazis, for money, of course.

This is the lowest form of human being. It should be eradicated for its betrayal.

Posted by: David Behar | Aug 12, 2017 3:18:05 PM

Disgusting fascist shit

Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 13, 2017 3:40:55 PM

Claudio. You have persuaded me. I now support the Italian death penalty, and want legislation to end the American death penalty by Congress, ending it across the nation.

You kill hundreds of violent criminals a year. Bravissimo.

I do not understand your comment. Are you actually expressing support for a Nazi loving and collaborating Jew? You have serial rapists and killers of children whom you protect, empower, and privilege. Now are you defending a Nazi collaborating Jew, which is an even lower form of life? That says a lot about your personal morality.

Posted by: David Behar | Aug 13, 2017 5:55:38 PM

A worthless survey. Describing the policies as Trump policies necessarily skews the results. There is also the question of whether being a victim of crime makes one an expert on the causes of crime or strategies for combating crime. It doesn't.

Posted by: David | Aug 13, 2017 10:41:56 PM

DB is out of order. American policies kills 1.500 persons per year. Italian Death penalty is omly in his poor mind.

Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 14, 2017 8:31:16 AM

Hi Cludio. Does Italy have a very high suicide rate in prison, or not?

Are there murders in prison?

Those are state sponsored extra-judicial executions, far smoother and far cheaper than the bullshit system of the USA. I admire it, and propose the US adopt the Italian death penalty system.

Posted by: David Behar | Aug 14, 2017 11:05:10 AM

In Italy last year we had 50 suicide in prisons, but we have NOT the butchery of 1.500 persons killed by police every year. I do not know how to call 1.500 killing, but you suggest me state sponsored extra-judicial executions. How many hundreds persons die every year in the America Gulag ????
At any rate, if Americans were Italians:
50-60.000 x 5 = 250-300.000 persons in prisons and jails and not 2.5 milions.
400-500 x 5 = 2.000 - 3.000 homicides per year and not 16.000

Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 14, 2017 11:52:58 AM

The Euro Court of Human Rights condemned Italian prisons, in part for their 10 fold rates of suicide and an additional 10 fold rate of suicide attempts. These are concentrated among the violent and difficult patients. That raises the suspicion that guards helped them along. Italian prisons are on the verge of collapse, so they are freeing room with suicides and murders.

In the US, the suicide rate is lower than in the matched population on the outside.

Posted by: David Behar | Aug 14, 2017 1:39:55 PM

You are lucky because you are out the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights, but in Soering the Court condemned the American death row as a clear form of torture.
Anyway, tell me something about the fifteen hundreds killing by your police, a butchery without confront in the civilized world, your murder rate of 6 when we have 0.8 and the huge American Gulag.

Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 14, 2017 3:19:53 PM

DB is a "beccaccino", someone who likes to believe to any idiocy

Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 14, 2017 4:02:19 PM

Claudio. The number of police homicides are white, out of proportion to the fraction of crimes committed by whites. Are you now still upset by US police homicides.

I live in a well to do lawyer residential neighborhood. In my neighborhood, the death penalty is at the scene. There is no excessive litigation. A black mother wanted to sue the local police for blasting her son in a robbery. She was laughed out of court. Result? Virtually no crime. Crime rates lower than those of Japan, only 4 miles from Fallujah type neighborhoods. No rampant petty crime as there is in Italy, with virtually no law enforcement. The police will refuse to even accept your report of a crime. Then, if a crime is prosecuted, the criminals are totally coddled.

Posted by: David Behar | Aug 15, 2017 2:10:10 PM


Posted by: Claudio Giusti | Aug 16, 2017 8:27:23 AM

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