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November 5, 2017

Seeking experiences and thoughts on Marsy's Law, especially from prosecutors, as Ohio prepares to vote

Facebook-seoMy local paper, the Columbus Dispatch, has this new article reporting on the on-going debate over "Marsy's Law," which is due to be considered by voter initiative here in Ohio this Tuesday. The piece is headlined "Victims rights concerns at root of Issue 1," and here are excerpts:

People on both sides of state Issue 1 say they are deeply concerned with victims rights, but some of those who are opposed question its workability and even its necessity.

Also known as Marsy’s Law, Issue 1 would amend the Ohio Constitution to enshrine rights for victims of alleged crimes that supporters say aren’t guaranteed now.  It’s on the ballot Tuesday. The amendment would require that victims be notified of important hearings in criminal cases of such things as prison releases.  It also would give alleged victims standing to intervene in criminal cases to try to protect what they see as their interests.  And it would seek to protect their privacy.

Marsy’s Law is named for Marsy Nicholas, who in 1983 was murdered by her ex-boyfriend in California. Unbeknownst to her parents, Nicholas’s killer was released on bail and her parents ran into him in a store.

The effort to change state constitutions in Ohio and elsewhere is bankrolled by Marsy’s brother, California tech billionaire Henry Nicholas, who was born in a Cincinnati suburb and moved west as a young boy.  His team insists that the constitutional amendment is meant merely to level the playing field for crime victims.  “Criminals get way more constitutional protections than crime victims do,” said Gail Gitcho, national spokeswoman for the Marsy’s Law effort.

But while victims’ rights are an easy sell politically, criminal cases don’t set the rights of the accused against those of an alleged victim, said Ohio Public Defender Tim Young. “The victim doesn’t need rights to keep the government from improperly sending them to prison,” he said.

Gitcho agreed that victims’ interests are different in criminal cases, and she said nothing about whether Issue 1 would limit constitutional protections for criminal defendants. But, she said, it’s high time that victims’ interests are protected in the Ohio Constitution.

Issue 1 has gathered the support of some high-level prosecutors, such as Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine and Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O’Brien.  But the Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association, the Ohio State Bar Association and the Ohio Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys have come out against the ballot initiative.

One concern is that the state Constitution isn’t the appropriate place for the protections. If problems arise with the workability of Issue 1, it would be exceedingly difficult to fix them by amending the Constitution, said Louis Tobin, executive director of the Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association. Issue 1 supporters say, however, that it’s necessary to put victim rights in the Constitution to ensure they’re protected because a 1994 state statute intended to do so hasn’t been enough.

“In the last several decades since, it has become clear that the rights of Ohio victims are not enforceable, there have been numerous efforts to strengthen those rights in the legislature,” Issue 1 spokesman Aaron Marshall said in an email. “All of those efforts have failed due to pushback from the same groups who are now claiming that they would support victims’ rights legislative improvements.”...

Asked for examples of victims’ rights violations in Ohio that would be helped by Issue 1, Marshall cited the case of a northeast Ohio rape in which the trial was postponed 20 times over more than five years. He also pointed to a Summit County woman’s long fight to keep private her psychological records and social media passwords after her boyfriend was killed and she was beaten, shot and stabbed.

Despite the appeal of Issue 1, Public Defender Young predicts a raft of legal headaches if it passes. “This isn’t about victims’ rights,” he said. “It’s about the Bill of Rights.”

As this article highlights, the vote over Marsy's Law has split the state's prosecutors, with Ohio's Attorney General and some county prosecutors in support, but with the Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association (OPAA) against.  (The Ohio AG is already a declared candidate for Ohio governor in 2018, which may have played some role in his thinking on the issue.)  This recent commentary from the executive director of the OPAA explains some of the group's concerns:

Marsy’s Law could negatively impact Ohio communities.  The amendment grants “the victim’s . . . lawful representative” the right to assert a victim’s rights. Courts could determine that this grants the victim the right to an attorney. The victim would then have the right to a court-appointed attorney if indigent.

Taxpayers could be paying for the prosecutor; for counsel for an indigent defendant; and for counsel for an indigent victim. This duplication of responsibilities and costs is bad enough in one case. Multiplied by thousands of cases each year, it could delay justice at best and deny it at worst.

Ohio’s prosecutors applaud advocates for victims.  They deserve praise for raising awareness of the cause and plight of victims of crime, and we stand ready to work with all to improve victim’s rights in a meaningful way.  Enshrining Marsy’s Law in Ohio’s Constitution in response to a problem case in California, however, is not beneficial. Ohioans should be concerned about the consequences for our justice system.

I tend to be a strong supporter of victim's rights in the criminal justice system, while also being a strong supporter of defendant rights.  Because I do not think there has to be or should be a zero-sum quality to defendant/victim rights, I am always inclined to support a proposal that seeks to expanded identified and enforceable rights in our justice system.  For this reason, I am inclined to support Marsy's Laws, and that inclination is enhanced by my extraordinary respect for lawyers and advocates I know who work so hard on behalf of rights of crime victims in a range of settings.

That all said, because Ohio has a number of victims' rights already in place in our Constitution and statutes, I understand the concern that Marsy's Law could end up being a cure worse than the current disease.  For that reason, as the title of this post suggests, I would be especially interested in hearing from prosecutors or others with direct experience with the impact and import of Marsy's Law or with particular concerns as to how the law might play out in Ohio.  I believe this law has been on the books for nearly a decade in California and in a handful of others states, and the debate here in Ohio has seemingly not included any examples of the law causing any big trouble in other jurisdictions.  A little research turned up this recent AP article from North Dakota reporting that law enforcement has described the impact of Marsy's Law there as  "very, very minimal."

So, informed (or uninformed) readers, any sharp thoughts on how the citizens of Ohio should vote on Marsy's Law?

November 5, 2017 at 01:24 PM | Permalink

Comments

This is a Trojan Horse. What is inside it is the right for victims to get lawyers at tax payer expense to navigate the complex legal system, and to assert their rights. Such a right to a lawyer will now be ensconced in a worthless, state constitutional amendment.

These rights are already in the federal system. I received frequent notices on all legal procedures happening to guys who defrauded me, including all prison hearings. I could not get their address, however, upon release. You lawyer fucks actually protected the criminal. It was a waste of time.

The sole substantive right of the victim is the right to not be victimized, and the right to deter future victimization by killing all criminals.

Posted by: David Behar | Nov 5, 2017 1:33:04 PM

My immediate concern is cut to what it would do, cutting through vanilla commentary, which is helpfully done to some degree in this article:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/09/election-2017-what-ohio-issue-1-aka-marsys-law/688598001/

Posted by: Joe | Nov 5, 2017 1:44:20 PM

A HARSH , but easy fix •

Summarily execute the suspect AND the
alleged victim(s) sans charge , trial , appeal , collateral attack , etc. 😳‼️

Relax.
I said the fix was harsh🙄
05 Nov T1417R EST

Posted by: Docile the Kind Soul | Nov 5, 2017 2:18:10 PM

Voter-approved Marsy's Law declared void by Montana Supreme Court, November 1, 2017
http://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/voter-approved-marsy-s-law-declared-void-by-montana-supreme/article_3308ce34-72a9-54f4-8589-13e8c08950ba.html

Posted by: Mary Davye Devoy | Nov 5, 2017 3:38:53 PM

Thanks for the link, Mary, though it appears the problem in Montana concerned the procedures for enactment, according to this article:
"Because voters were asked to cast a single vote on substantive and unrelated changes to the constitution, the Court held that CI-116 was unconstitutionally submitted to Montana voters and void in its entirety," a summary of the order reads.

Notably, Ohio has a single-subject rule for legislation, but I am unaware of any voter initiatives being struck down for the problems apparently found in Montana.

Posted by: Doug B | Nov 5, 2017 4:05:53 PM

In my experience here in CA, the judges do not give the protections and privileges enshrined in our Marsy's law much respect.

Posted by: David | Nov 5, 2017 9:55:53 PM

The Ohio bar assoc. came out against it here:

https://www.ohiobar.org/NewsAndPublications/News/OSBANews/Pages/OSBAs-Weekly-Legislative-Report-2017-Election-Edition.aspx

largely because it is redundant (ORC 2930) and they don't think it belongs in the state constitution.

Posted by: Dave C. | Nov 6, 2017 3:19:53 PM

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