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June 24, 2024
After Rahimi, can Donald Trump legally possess a gun? How about Hunter Biden?
For criminal law practitioners, as well as for those who take constitutional gun rights seriously, the provision of federal criminal gun control that was upheld by the Supreme Court in US v. Rahimi, 18 USC § 922(g)(8) (basics here), is not really a matter of frequent concern. As noted in this new Quick Facts publication from the US Sentencing Commission, the vast majority of federal criminal gun control prosecutions involve persons who "were convicted under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g) because of a prior felony conviction." Of just over 8000 persons sentenced in federal court for illegally posessing a gun in Fiscal Year 2023, well over 7000 were in violation of federal 18 USC § 922(g)(1) for having a firearm after having "been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year."
Of course, just in the last few months, a couple of high profile individuals have "been convicted [of] a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year." Because both former President Donald Trump and son-of-the-current-President Hunter Biden have now both been convicted of felonies, they would be committing a new federal felony crime if they now or in the future were to "possess ... any firearm or ammunition." (There is perhaps an irony that one of Hunter Biden's felony convictions involves another different (suspect?) provision of 18 USC § 922(g), but he also was convicted of two other crimes that trigger the criminal gun possession prohibition of § 922(g)(1).) So, to comply with federal statutory criminal law, Donald Trump and Hunter Biden should make sure they do not now or in the future posssess any firearm or ammunition.
But what about their Second Amendment rights? Notably, at least two circuit courts and a number of district courts have read the Supreme Court's landmark Bruen opinion to lead to the conclusion that the federal criminal felon-in-possession law is unconstitutional when applied to nonviolent, nondangerous offenders. Both Donald Trump and Hunter Biden could surely make a claim that they are nonviolent, nondangerous offenders, so can they also claim they have a constitutional legal right to possess a gun regardless of federal statutory law?
Of course, this past Friday, the Supreme Court in Rahimi explained how Second Amendment law is now supposed to work, and so Donald Trump and Hunter Biden (and their legal teams) have new guidance as to the scope and limits of their gun rights. But, from my read of key language in Rahimi, I am still scratching my head on this important front. Here, I believe, is much of the key operative language from the Court's Rahimi opinion:
Since the founding, our Nation’s firearm laws have included provisions preventing individuals who threaten physical harm to others from misusing firearms.... From the earliest days of the common law, firearm regulations have included provisions barring people from misusing weapons to harm or menace others....
Taken together, the surety and going armed laws confirm what common sense suggests: When an individual poses a clear threat of physical violence to another, the threatening individual may be disarmed....
While we do not suggest that the Second Amendment prohibits the enactment of laws banning the possession of guns by categories of persons thought by a legislature to present a special danger of misuse, see Heller, 554 U. S., at 626, we note that Section 922(g)(8) applies only once a court has found that the defendant “represents a credible threat to the physical safety” of another....
Heller never established a categorical rule that the Constitution prohibits regulations that forbid firearm possession in the home. In fact, our opinion stated that many such prohibitions, like those on the possession of firearms by “felons and the mentally ill,” are “presumptively lawful.”...
Section 922(g)(8) ... presumes, like the surety laws before it, that the Second Amendment right may only be burdened once a defendant has been found to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of others.... [O]ur Nation’s tradition of firearm regulation distinguishes citizens who have been found to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of others from those who have not.... Our tradition of firearm regulation allows the Government to disarm individuals who present a credible threat to the physical safety of others....
Finally, in holding that Section 922(g)(8) is constitutional as applied to Rahimi, we reject the Government’s contention that Rahimi may be disarmed simply because he is not “responsible.” Brief for United States 6; see Tr. of Oral Arg. 8–11. “Responsible” is a vague term. It is unclear what such a rule would entail. Nor does such a line derive from our case law....
[W]e conclude only this: An individual found by a court to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of another may be temporarily disarmed consistent with the Second Amendment.
I do not believe Donald Trump or Hunter Biden "poses a clear threat of physical violence to another," and § 922(g)(1) notably serves to permanently disarm anyone with a felony conviction. Further, the federal government has, since Bruen, generally argued for the constitutionality of 922(g)(1) based on the notion that only "responsible" individuals have Second Amendment rights. The Rahimi court directly and expressly rejected that notion. But still, as we saw before in Second Amendment cases like Heller and McDonald, the Court in the Rahimi seems to still embrace dicta that can be read to suggest that the very broad criminal prohibition set forth in 18 USC § 922(g)(1) is still constitutional.
So, to repeat the question in the title of this post: After Rahimi, can Donald Trump legally possess a gun? How about Hunter Biden?
June 24, 2024 at 11:39 AM | Permalink
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Although I have not reviewed the NY state crimes he has been found guilty of, (I am a TX, not a NY lawyer) I have not yet seen any analysis online of whether they arguably fall into the exception to federal felon in possession statute (18 USC 922(n)) at 18 USC 921(a)(20).
That provision states that "Under the term "crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year" does not include - (A) any Federal or State offenses pertaining to antitrust violations, unfair trade practices, restraints of trade, or other similar offenses relating to the regulation of business practices."
Posted by: Q. Tate Williams | Jun 24, 2024 12:59:01 PM
Does anyone know what is happening with the cert petition in Range, the case where the en banc 3rd Circuit held that the felon in possession statute was unconstitutional as applied to people convicted of nonviolent felonies? Scotusblog says it was distributed for conference last November, but I see no updates on whether it's been re-listed or denied: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/garland-v-range/
Posted by: Matt | Jun 24, 2024 1:51:29 PM
My assumption, Matt, has been that Range was being held for Rahimi. In turn, it seems quite likely that there will be a GVR in Range and any other pending 922(g) case. But, there is a (slight? real?) chance the Justices, because they surely know that they will need to speak to FIP cases soon, will grant cert on Range or others now pending before them.
Posted by: Doug B | Jun 24, 2024 2:16:12 PM
As to Donald Trump, there is the federal law (which might or might not apply to him) and state laws. If he were sentenced in New York to any time or a fine, he would not be able to possess a gun in my state.
Like Professor Berman, my expectation is a remand in light of Rahimi to anything currently pending at the Supreme Court.
When the case comes up, Rahimi really does not answer what is necessary to show a credible threat to other individuals. If I have somebody with a nonviolent felony, my argument would be that such a person is not a credible threat to other individuals sufficient to justify a lifetime ban on gun ownership. I would make a similar argument if I was representing a drug user. The Supreme Court, at some point, is going to have to fill in the details. (Of course, almost 20 years after Crawford, we are still filling in those details. Ditto for Apprendi.) And assuming that there is some line between violent and nonviolent felonies, what makes a felony sufficiently violent to support this restriction.
Posted by: tmm | Jun 24, 2024 2:34:46 PM
Trump can, Hunter can't, next case.
-- federalist
MAGA
Posted by: MAGA 2024 | Jun 24, 2024 3:24:08 PM
I have a more important question: why shouldn't citizens with prior convictions have to do what Range did -- seek a declaratory judgment in a civil action instead of engaging in self help by violating the law and then moving to dismiss the charges on the ground the statute is unconstitutional as applied?
Posted by: Da Man | Jun 24, 2024 3:34:53 PM
Interesting point, Da Man, but are the feds going to provide a free lawyer and an expedited process for the roughly 20 million people with felony records who wish to exercise their constitutional rights? Going forward, should judges at the time of felony sentencing be decideing and telling folks --- based, I guess, on a "Rahimi hearing" --- if they do or do not have any Second Amendment rights for the rest of their lives?
Posted by: Doug B | Jun 24, 2024 3:44:45 PM
Doug,
Speaking only for myself, I wouldn't want to risk criminal prosecution to see if 922(g)(1) is unconstitutional as to me. I'm sure the NRA will provide a free lawyer to bring the as applied challenge -- indeed, why not bring several for each class of felon (drug dealers, white collar offenders, smugglers) and settle the issue once and for all.
Posted by: Da Man | Jun 24, 2024 4:15:49 PM
DA Man :
The NRA won't do that for just anyone. Do you feel like a Bill Otis style wager as to whether they would extend such generosity to, say, Hunter Biden?
I think they would wait for a more sympathetic petitioner, like Elias Huizar LOL
MAGA
Posted by: MAGA 2024 | Jun 24, 2024 4:35:05 PM
Da Man: You concerns about risking prosecution is quite reasonable. But the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund webpage speaks of funding challenges for "law-abiding citizen." https://www.nradefensefund.org/litigation-and-research/eligible-cases/ Also, you comment raises the challenging question of whether applying Rahimi is going to be done on a crime-based or an offender-based system. I think you mentioned in another thread that crimes like drug dealing (not to mention, eg, property offenses, driving offenses, downloading child porn, gun possession offenses, etc.) sometimes do involve persons who pose a clear threat of physical violence to another, and sometimes do not. Rahimi itself seems to say categortical challenges in this setting are disfavored, so we may just need to litigate 20+ million cases to sort this out.
Posted by: Doug B | Jun 24, 2024 5:48:22 PM
Doug: The evolving state of Second Amendment gun rights laws takes me back to an historical anachronism of gun rights law. ATF/ Dept. of the Treasury still have regulations on their books whereby felons can seek to have their gun rights restored. Those regulations have never been eliminated. Rather, what Congress has done for decades is refuse to fund the processing of the applications, and be explicit that no Federal government money shall be spent processing the restoration of rights applications. But rather than face 20 million possible lawsuits, the time may be coming for Congress to once again fund the processing of Applications for the Restoration of gun rights. I recall that about 10 years ago, a Texas hunter filed a lawsuit, asking a U.S. District Judge to restore his gun rights, since the Feds wouldn't process his application. But the District Judge (or a 5th Circuit Judge on appeal) held that the judiciary couldn't order restoration of gun rights for felons; and it was within Congress's prerogatives to refuse to fund the processing of the applications.
Posted by: Jim Gormley | Jun 24, 2024 7:44:49 PM
There is a major criminal case pending in the Circuit Court of Clark County, Indiana against the former Sheriff, Jamel Noel, his wife and daughter, for stealing millions of dollars from the Sheriff's Dept. and the Volunteer Fire Depat., which Noel also ran. The scope and amounts of the greedy stealing are astonishing: $300,000 on personal vacations, payment of daughter's college tuition, an extensive car collection, and even paying child support for the illegitimate child he fathered out of wedlock and in violation of his marriage vows with a female City Council member! The former Sheriff is now facing 25 felony charges and his revised bond is $1.5 million (because he owns a plane and a home in Florida). His initial bond (before many more charges were added) was $75,000, with a condition that he turn over all his firearms, EXCEPT the Judge's bond Order says that he can keep a shotgun of his choice for personal protection! The defendant got his brother-in-law and a friend to comb thru his home and retrieve 82 firearms, which were turned over to the police. But then about 6 months later, the police found 2 more pistols in a white cardboard box in the defendant's basement. The pistols are still in their original, unopened packaging, with receipts showing they were purchased in 2017. At the contempt hearing, the defendant simply said that he had forgotten that they were there, and he had owned so many guns, he didn't remember them, since he had never opened the packages or fired them. Special Clark County Circuit Judge Larry Medlock said that he has heard that excuse too many times in his career, and he found the defendant in criminal contempt of court and sentenced him to 60 days in jail (after which he can try to get together the huge new bond, if he can). But the issue that occurred to me is whether the Judge unwittingly may have placed Mr. Noel in violation of 18 U.S. Code section 922(n) by providing that he could retain 1 shotgun for personal protection which under indictment and out on bond. And then there are those 2 pistols Mr. Noel unwittingly had in a box in his basement. What do the readers think about a state court Judge perhaps authorizing a defendant under indictment to possess a shotgun in violation (?) of federal firearms law? Today, I called the Judge's chambers and gave his law clerk the citation to 922(n) and suggested that they take a look at the issue.
Posted by: Jim Gormley | Jun 24, 2024 8:27:05 PM
Jim, the judge allowing a defendant under federal indictment to "retain" and possess a shotgun would not be a violation of 922(n). That section prohibits a person under felony indictment to either transport a firearm across state lines or to "receive" a firearm. If a person already had a firearm from before they were indicted, then their retention of the firearm is not receipt of the item and thus clearly does not violate 922(n). For that reason, there is absolutely no violation of 922(n) by allowing a person under indictment to "retain" a firearm they already had.
I'd also point out that the mens rea for a violation of 922(n) is willful, so in order for a person to violate that statute, they must be specifically aware that their receipt of the firearm was unlawful.
In short, call the Judge's chambers back -- there's nothing to worry about under 922(n).
All that said, the judge may consider informing the indicted former Sherrif about 922(n)'s prohibitions such that if he were to obtain a new firearm while under indictment, the mens rea and actus reus of 922(n) would then be satisfied.
Posted by: anon | Jun 25, 2024 8:37:40 AM
@ Jim Gormley | Jun 24, 2024 7:44:49 PM RIGHT ON
Posted by: Da Man | Jun 25, 2024 10:15:51 AM
As always I appreciate Jim Gormley's dedication to bringing concrete cases of legal interest to our attention. But I smell a grandstanding 'rat prosecutor in the Jamey Noel case.
https://ballotpedia.org/Jamey_Noel
The thing to do in cases like this is to offer a plea deal, as generous as necessary to quietly move Noel on to other pastures. He seems to have one set up already in Florida. A case like this getting so much press coverage is not good for Team Conservative.
Failing that, Noel should be rebranded as a liberal. He certainly spends like one LOL
At least Clark County escaped the humiliation of a Marilyn Mosby incident.
See what happens when taxes are too high? MAGA
Posted by: MAGA 2024 | Jun 25, 2024 12:48:48 PM