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July 8, 2024
A new (sub)space for more sentencing commentary from more voices
I am pleased to highlight today a new place and spece for sentencing discussions, Sentencing Matters Substack. In this first posting at that location, I provide a bit of the origin story and vision for this new endeavor:
This is a new substack designed to be a new space for commentary about sentencing matters by a set of sentencing-interested academics.
I already have a blog, Sentencing Law and Policy, where I have been writing about sentencing matters for over two decades(!). But in that space, I do a lot of posts that I might label “reporting” focused around sentencing news and cases and scholarship.... I feel I rarely make as much time as I would like for more and longer commentary posts at SL&P. And, upon seeing a number of friends and colleagues use Substack for effective original commentary, I started to get a hankering for trying out this medium as one new way to prompt myself to make more time for more longer-form sentencing commentary.
As this idea germinated, a new catalyst for growth emerged: Jonathan Wroblewski, who had served for many years as the Director of the Office of Policy and Legislation in the Criminal Division of the US Department of Justice and also as DOJ’s ex officio respresententative on the US Sentencing Commission, told me he was working on a series of commentary pieces that he was hoping to have posted on Sentencing Law and Policy. I said I would be honored to place these pieces on SL&P, but I added that I would be even more excited to start a sentencing Substack as a place for both of us (and perhaps others) to share all sorts of sentencing talk about all sorts of sentencing matters.
In addition, my long-time co-managing editor with the Federal Sentencing Reporter, Steven Chanenson, agreed to be another stacker(?) on this new Substack. Among an array of virtues and contributions, Steve suggested the titled title “Sentencing Matters” for this effort and also got a blessing to use that great title from another legendary sentencing academic who came up with it first.
I am hopeful, though not at all confident, that this new Substack will compliment and enhance my work on this blog. Indeed, I am already excited to be able to flag Jonahan Wroblewski's first Sentencing Matters Substack posting here, titled "Why I Still Believe in Sentencing Guidelines (Just Not the Current Federal Guidelines)." Here is a closing section of his posting, which should be read in full:
The insights of these scholars [like Professors Daniel Kahneman and Barry Ruback] also reveal that while a structured and actuarial model of decision making will outperform most humans on consistency and along other dimensions, greater detail in the decision-making structure, like the federal Commission decided to incorporate in drafting the federal sentencing guidelines, does not necessarily bring with it greater validity across dimensions. In fact, much research suggests that attempts at greater precision will often lead to lower validity. This is the experience of the federal guidelines. The guidelines were drafted to dictate precise sentencing outcomes, and many judges recoiled. But more than that, the attempts at precision ran into psychological and constitutional limitations. Especially now, 20 years after the Booker decision, it is time to revisit the guideline structure created by the first Commission.
The guidelines are a case study in a failed attempt to use brute force – and too much precision – to get to particular algorithmic outcomes. Of course, there is another way to bring consistency and sound policy to sentencing decisions. As Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein suggested in their best-selling book, Nudge, which was also drawn from Kahneman’s work, policy makers can create a less dictatorial choice architecture to try to move decision makers, like sentencing judges, in a particular direction. With psychological scholarship in mind, it is not difficult to imagine a simpler federal sentencing decision tree, one ironically with even greater richness than the current federal guidelines and yet simultaneously more understandable to all, including those being sentenced, the victims of crime, and the general public. One need only look to guidelines system of many states and certain foreign countries that have learned from the U.S. federal system what not to do. Most everyone familiar with the federal guidelines can agree upon this: they are not nuanced; they are not a nudge; and they are not a model.
July 8, 2024 at 08:42 AM | Permalink
Comments
Congrats and good luck, Doug.
First question. Is there any diversity of thought among the contributors?
I have to admit, seeing Sunstein’s “Nudge” quoted right off the bat doesn’t give me warm fuzzies.
Posted by: TarlsQtr | Jul 8, 2024 12:24:00 PM
The other two contributors are former DOJ employees, one as prosecutor in Chicago, the other in Main Justice for decades. So there is some professional diversity. Not sure what other DEI criteria you consider important.
Posted by: Doug B. | Jul 8, 2024 1:21:30 PM
Professor, for diversity of thought, Tarls would like you enlist the equivalent of Atilla the Hun, Blackbeard the Pirate, and Joseph Stalin. For good measure, also enlist a devotee of Pol Pot.
Posted by: anon | Jul 8, 2024 1:28:42 PM
Doug --
I just signed up. You could not have chosen more knowledgeable or fair-minded colleagues. Not that I would mistake them for Billy Wilkins................
anon --
I'm utterly insulted that you didn't include me on your list.
Posted by: Bill Otis | Jul 8, 2024 2:09:44 PM
Gee, Doug, you could have just given me an answer like Bill’s instead of extracting the claws. Lol
“Diversity of thought,” is not a DEI criterion.
Posted by: TarlsQtr | Jul 8, 2024 2:43:55 PM
Anon,
More likely, Alexander Spotswood, who put Blackbeard’s head on a pike on the James River.
Posted by: TarlsQtr | Jul 8, 2024 2:53:34 PM
Sorry, Master Tarls, I was on the road responding on my phone in between a variety of other tasks. But now that I have a bit more time, I'd welcome your input on pursuing "diversity of thought" in these settings. And please know, MT, I am not trying to troll in any way. I share your affinity for "diversity of thought," which is one of the main reasons I try hard not to censor or even moderate these comments. But I am never confident about how best to pursue this particular diversity goal without risking falling into what I see as a potentially problematic DEI maelstrom.
Specifically, I'd be eager to know if you think diversity in backgrounds --- educational, professional and perhaps also personal --- is one reasonable means to pursue "diversity of thought." I also wonder if you think there are certain baseline criteria of merit for "thought" in this setting -- eg, I assume you were not inquiring about whether, say, medical doctors or computer scientists were to be writing on the Sentencing Matters Substack. Again, these follow-up points are not meant to undercut in any way your reasonable inquiry about "diversity of thought among the contributors" to the SM Substack, but only to highlight that I see robust efforts to pursue diversity in any setting necessarily implicates an array of normative judgments that can often be, ultimately, in keeping with the normative judgments that seems to drive a lot of DEI efforts.
Posted by: Doug B | Jul 8, 2024 6:07:42 PM
Doug --
To paraphrase the Chief, the best way to pursue diversity of thought is to pursue diversity of thought. What you look like or what your body parts are or whether you went to X college or Y college or no college have zip to do with it. How you think has lots to do with it.
Posted by: Bill Otis | Jul 8, 2024 10:12:45 PM
But the Chief's aphorism in the Parents Involved case was about how to AVOID making certain distinctions among people on one particular personal criteria (race). Pursuing "diversity of thought," as I see it, necessarily requires making some distinction among people on (various) personal criteria based on some obvious and some implicit normative judgments. (Eg, How you think about sentencng matters may have lots to do with when and where you grew up, whether and where you went to law school, whether you went to or worked in a prison, or served as a prosecutor or as a law clerk pre-Blakley/Booker or post-Blakely/Booker, and so on and so on.)
As I explained to Master Tarls, I have a great affinity for diversity of thought, and I seek to advance this diversity goal in a variety of ways in a variety of settings. But, as I put it above, I think the many significant normative judgments that must be made in order to pursue "diversity of thought" is very much in keeping with the normative judgments that seems to drive a lot of broader DEI efforts.
Posted by: Doug B | Jul 9, 2024 10:01:03 AM
Doug --
When it's thought you're looking for, look for it! Don't look for a proxy, since (1) it's going to be identity politics through the back door; (2) it's going to involve racial and sex and class stereotypes no matter how hard you try to keep them out (or, of course, try to include them); (3) it will be chock full of error, as stereotypes so frequently are, see, e.g., Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Riley Gaines, Elise Stefanik (a really smart person -- I had lunch with her last month). See by contrast Larry Krasner, Bernie Sanders, Adam Schiff, etc., etc.
Posted by: Bill Otis | Jul 9, 2024 1:12:49 PM
Doug,
It’s not about immutable traits. It’s about actual viewpoint. Iron sharpens iron and it is more interesting than reading people who echo each other.
Bill,
You like Elise? She is the representative of the district I lived in for most of my life. She was actually getting some heat to be a Trump VP pick.
Posted by: TarlsQtr | Jul 9, 2024 2:01:03 PM
Master Tarls, I focused in my initial response on entirely mutable traits when noting other contributors are "former DOJ employees, one as prosecutor in Chicago, the other in Main Justice for decades." These folks bring, as you put it, different "actual viewpoints" based on different professional experiences. That said, I hope through comments and/or guest posts that we would get even more diverse voices on the Substack.
More fundamentally, advancing "diversity of thought" is about so much beyond "immutable traits" --- which is why, for example, I have been pleased to see many more public defenders recently appointed to the federal bench when federal prosecutors had for so long dominated these appointments. As a fellow fan of "diversity of thought," do you share my praise for these recent judicial appointments?
Posted by: Doug B | Jul 9, 2024 2:36:50 PM
TarlsQtr --
I liked her a lot, and I hope The Donald is still considering her.
The thing that cracked me up in my conversation with her was not that she knew a lot about crime or inflation or immigration or all that stuff. She knew a lot about North Pole, NY, where I spent my summers in law school. All my fellow students were at some big, fat firm like Willkie, Farr or Covington & Burling. Not me. I never was keen on getting a job to start with. So I "worked" as an elf (not a typo) at Santa's Workshop in North Pole, NY. As Ms. Stefank immediately recognized, Santa's is the oldest theme park in the United States. I still have the picture of me sitting on Santa's lap. I looked really young then. May God be praised, so did the girls who worked at Santa's, but I won't say more than that since I want to help keep this a family blog.
P.S. My first choice for VP is Tom Cotton, a brilliant and courageous man (who survived three years at Doug's law school). Next is Youngkin, then Ms. Stefanik.
Posted by: Bill Otis | Jul 9, 2024 2:41:10 PM