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September 23, 2024

Another review of the jurisprudential mess of the Second Amendment ... and originalism's deep challenge

Adam Liptak's latest Sidebar column in the New York Times, headlined "Supreme Court’s Gun Rulings Leave Baffled Judges Asking for Help," is focused on the mess that is Second Amendment jurisprudence.  I recommend the piece in full, and here are excerpts: 

Federal appeals courts were busy this summer trying to make sense of the Supreme Court’s recent Second Amendment decisions. It has not gone well.  In 2022, Justice Clarence Thomas introduced a new test to assess the constitutionality of laws meant to address gun violence.  Such laws must be struck down, he wrote, unless they are “consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.”

Last month, Chief Judge Albert Diaz of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, in Richmond, Va., writing for six judges, said that approach had created “a labyrinth for lower courts, including our own, with only the one-dimensional history-and-tradition test as a compass.”  He added: “Courts, tasked with sifting through the sands of time, are asking for help.”....

In June, in United States v. Rahimi, the Supreme Court upheld a federal law that made it a crime for people subject to domestic violence restraining orders to have guns.  In his majority opinion, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. looked to history in very general terms and said lower courts bore the blame for the confusing state of the law.  “Some courts have misunderstood the methodology of our recent Second Amendment cases,” the chief justice wrote. “These precedents were not meant to suggest a law trapped in amber.”

Chief Judge Diaz was not convinced. The Rahimi decision, he wrote, “offered little instruction or clarity.”... Judge Pamela Harris of the Fourth Circuit, speaking at a conference on Saturday at William & Mary Law School, said appeals court judges faced a perplexing task.  “The trick is that we all need to go back in time and become historians,” she said. “And short of that, I find this to be very, very challenging.”

She gave an example. “I just got two briefs,” she said. “One brief says, ‘This happened in history.’ The other says, ‘No, it didn’t.’”

“What do I do?” she asked.

I noted in this post a few days ago that the three federal circuit courts which have weighed in on what Rahami and the Second Amendment means for federal felon-in-possession law have reached three different conclusions using, in essence, three different interpretive methodologies.  And this comes after the Supreme Court has had three major opinions embracing an originalist approach to the Second Amendment (Heller, Bruen and Rahimi), with the latter two seemingly serving as a bold statement that lower courts could not properly understanding and apply the Supreme Court's prior originalist rulings.

I do no want to go too far in suggesting that modern Second Amendment developments show that the originalist jurisprudential emperors wear no clothes.  But I do think the problems is these gun cases reflect the unavoidable difficulties in turning the wholesale concepts of originalism into detailed retail rules for precises case-by-case application and adjudication.  And these problems seem especially acute in various criminal justice settings where there are literally thousands of factual and legal variations being litigated in federal and state courts nationwide all the time.  (And that's why, as I have discussed here and here, I suspect some of the current conservative Justices may be fearful about where their originalist inclinations could take them in the constitutitional criminal procedure cases that used to be a mainstay of the SCOTUS docket.) 

September 23, 2024 at 02:33 PM | Permalink

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The current argument over the Second Amendment reminds me of my SAT exam way back when dinosaurs walked the earth. One of the analogy questions asked us to compare wind speed and horse gaits. Putting aside the unfairness of that question (as it requires knowing horse gaits which might be common knowledge in some areas of the country but is uncommon in other areas), the core of the question was the functional equivalent of applying apples to oranges. What is extremely fast for a horse (around 40 miles per hour) is barely a tropical storms and hurricanes can have winds that are up to five times as fast.

Similarly, in the Second Amendment context, the guns being regulated around 1800 were relatively difficult to accurately fire at even a moderate rate of speed (maybe one shot a minute). Today's weapons, on the other hand, with extended magazines, can allow thirty shots or more in a minute. It should go without saying that the dangers posed by gun ownership were less significant in 1800 than they are today. Given the vast change in circumstance, how do you abstract a principal from the gun laws of the 1800s which allows courts to consider the relevant risk posed by certain guns?

The compelling interest test at least sought to identify such principals -- what are the permissible considerations that would support gun regulation and does the proposed regulation appropriately respond to those considerations. The current attempt to find near cousins from distant ancestors has resulted in courts coming up with weird rules including one count finding that the laws against machine guns are unconstitutional??!!

Posted by: tmm | Sep 23, 2024 3:32:23 PM

Sound points, tmm, and they cut to the heart of the fundamental problems with originalism across many provisions of the Bill of Rights. How do we compare this blog or TikTok to the printing presses of the 18th century? How do we compare GPS tracking to the work of constables in days of yore? How do we compare even modern prison terms to the common punishments at Founding?

However someone might seek to engage in this (impossible) historical comparison task, it is not an exercise of law or history or even reasoned judgment. Rather, it seems so much more like picking and choosing outcomes as serves the (modern) purported originalist's interests. As Jack Balkin puts the point in a recent article: "We Are All Cafeteria Originalists Now (and We Always Have Been)" https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4957209

Posted by: Doug B | Sep 23, 2024 5:48:24 PM

"remember, it is a Constitution we are expounding"

Posted by: federalist | Sep 24, 2024 12:29:48 PM

That's why, despite it's flaws, the compelling interest test was a reasonable way to be true to the text and intentions of the Framers. Used properly, the questions of the compelling interest tests were: 1) what interests were the Framers intending to protect; 2) what interests did they recognize as valid exceptions; 3) given those two sets of interests and the modern facts related to this challenged regulation, does the regulation serve the interests that were valid exceptions and do they do it in a way that minimizes the infringement on the interests that the constitutional provision was intended to protect.

Posted by: tmm | Sep 24, 2024 1:51:48 PM

There is an interesting Second Amendment lawsuit now pending in a Federal Court in Florida, attacking the Florida state laws concerning carrying concealed weapons with a permit that contains limitations. The thrust of the lawsuit is that "Constitutional carry" is required by the 2nd Amendment, so there should not be any concealed carry permit requirements at all. Interestingly, the Florida Attorney General has refused to enter any appearance in the Federal Court case and will not defend the constitutionality of Florida's concealed carry permit requirements. Some of that position must be politics, because the Attorney General is expected to run for Governor. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Jim Gormley | Sep 24, 2024 9:23:02 PM

The Second Amendment is unique due to its poor drafting. I have read it a hundred times, and I still have no idea what it says.

Originalist arguments are stronger when there is a clear original statement one can follow. For most of the Constitution, that's at least arguably the case. But not for the Second Amendment.

Posted by: William Jockusch | Sep 26, 2024 11:09:55 PM

William Jockusch,

For the life of me, I cannot figure out what is so confusing for you.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Perhaps “well regulated?” In the parlance of the times, it means well trained. The militia was made up of all adult males, as they could be called to fight.

You need soldiers who know how to fight, so they must be allowed to own guns.


Posted by: TarlsQtr | Sep 27, 2024 3:16:52 PM

So, Tarls, does that mean only able bodied men had gun rights then (and now)? Does that right extend only to guns used in and by militias? Can the number of guns owned be regulated as well as the type? How about if a person had a history or drunkenness or of past misdeeds?

Posted by: Doug B | Sep 27, 2024 4:05:13 PM

The problem this creates for courts and litigants is that they need to become instant historians of law and punishment in colonial times. The Fifth Circuit's recent Diaz decision puts this in focus: essentially, the Fifth Circuit concluded that if a felon has been convicted of a crime similar to one that would have carried the death penalty or forfeiture of one's estate, then the modern defendant can be deprived of their Second Amendment rights.

How are litigants supposed to figure this out? In the late 18th century, there was no Lexis or Westlaw. Statutes weren't codified; they were just written down in the order that legislatures passed them. Good luck finding them online in a way that is searchable, or even available at all. The statutes are full off terms and phrases that had meaning to legislators back then, but whose import requires a degree in history to interpret.

Then, the nation was made up of 13 discrete colonies, with different approaches to crime and punishment. Around the time of the Bill of Rights, some states were relaxing their capital punishment laws, while others were enforcing them strictly, especially against slaves and former slaves. Who's to say which colony's laws were representative of the "Nation's history and traditions"?

And just saying "X crime was a capital offense in 1791" doesn't really answer the question. Different grades of criminal offenses carried different punishments, just as they do today. It's unlikely that someone who stole a piece of cloth would be hanged, but a horse thief probably would have. Does that mean that "theft" was a capital offense? Or just horse theft? And under what circumstances?

Secondary sources can help, but most weren't drafted with Bruen in mind, and who has access to law review articles? Law review articles after Bruen are written to advance an author's viewpoint and are of suspect help in trying to answer the questions that Bruen raised.

The fiasco that Bruen hath wrought is that local prosecutors and solo practitioners suddenly need to develop master's degree level of understanding of colonial era law and practice. To do that, they will have to find original source material and digest and brief it for the courts, who will then have to replicate that research to figure out which side is right. This is not a weekend project. Most local judges and lawyers don't have the time or resources for this type of research. That the Bruen court suggests that this is a bread-and-butter task of any attorney only shows that the Supreme Court justices must have never worked outside of a large law firm or federal government agency or academia. Or at least they don't remember what it is like not to have an army of law clerks and researchers at their beck and call.

Posted by: C.A.J. | Oct 1, 2024 10:29:25 AM

Where does it say any of that in the 2A, federalist papers, or other writings of the time?

Posted by: TarlsQtr | Oct 2, 2024 10:55:24 AM

Say any of what, Tarls?

Posted by: Doug B | Oct 2, 2024 6:02:47 PM

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